We're looking at a car that had just the pads changed 4 months ago, the rotors we're not sure of their condition. So 4 months later he has a brake wear light come on.
Deducing what I think would be the issue, through what I have read and the amount of time it took for the brake wear light to come on.
I have a very reputable Porsche parts seller that says even with new pads the rotor can cut the wire.
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Grinding, pulsating and a lack of stopping power are signs of a bad brake rotor. If your brake pads have worn deep into your rotor, the lip on the outer edge of the rotor can cut into your pad wear sensors, causing a brake pad warning to appear in the instrument cluster - even if your brake pads are new. Rotors should be checked every time you service your brakes.
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Deducing what I think would be the issue, through what I have read and the amount of time it took for the brake wear light to come on.
From what you read, what you deduced makes sense. I can picture how a lip on an extremely worn rotor could cut the sensor. Looking at the actual brakes, I don't think it's very likely.
From what you read, what you deduced makes sense. I can picture how a lip on an extremely worn rotor could cut the sensor. Looking at the actual brakes, I don't think it's very likely.
I'm definitely following what you're saying with new brakes pads.
I want to know what ECS Tuning has to say about their information on rotors cutting the sensor even with new pads.
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I'm definitely following what you're saying with new brakes pads.
I want to know what ECS Tuning has to say about their information on rotors cutting the sensor even with new pads.
Cannot happen with a new pad. There's even a pic that shows thicknesses of both.
It's the small bird carrying a coconut thing. It's not a matter of the weight of the coconut.......or the amount of flapping it can do. Physics.
Offer stands. $100 to show me how a worn rotor can cut through a sensor wire PROPERLY installed in a new pad. I've got all these parts at my shop spare. I'm glad to dissect or display them to help prove how this can't happen. Sounds like they are selling rotors to folks who just need pads.
"Wear indicator came on?? Sounds like the worn rotor cut through the pad wear sensor in those new pads!"
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Cannot happen with a new pad. There's even a pic that shows thicknesses of both.
It's the small bird carrying a coconut thing. It's not a matter of the weight of the coconut.......or the amount of flapping it can do. Physics.
Offer stands. $100 to show me how a worn rotor can cut through a sensor wire PROPERLY installed in a new pad. I've got all these parts at my shop spare. I'm glad to dissect or display them to help prove how this can't happen. Sounds like they are selling rotors to folks who just need pads.
"Wear indicator came on?? Sounds like the worn rotor cut through the pad wear sensor in those new pads!"
Geez dude, you really have a reading comprehension problem. 78F350 said and showed a picture that a new pad would not let the rotor cut the wire. I said I'm following him what he is saying about the new brake pads. That means I understand what 78F350 is saying.
I then went on to say I want to know what ECS Tuning has to say about their information on rotors cutting the sensor even with new pads.
Now calm down, let Dwight find out what caused the brake wear light to come on and ECS Tuning time to reply.
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I know there is always some head butting on here, but it keeps this most helpful forum colorful and you guys are the best when it comes to help. I'm doing Annual PM's on Dialysis equipment for the next few days to keep people alive....so it will be a few days before I can snatch the Box's shoes off and see what is really going on. I know I do have a squeal on one of my pads at very low speeds while breaking....and with very little brake pressure...once I stand on it the noise stops....so I think I need to remove the pads and re-apply adhesive to the back of the pad. I read somewhere that someone had good luck with hi-temp silicone ....might give that a try this time.
Some notifications from other forum members sent me to this thread, I know I stated before that I was out but one last post.........
KRAM, please refrain from dispensing with the mechanical advice, you clearly know not of what you speak. Continuing to do such will only put other unsuspecting forum members (who take heed to your misinformed advice) at risk of injury, it's bad enough that you relish driving the fool on public roads then feel the need brag about it on forums yet now you give advice on braking issues when you have obviously never dealt with changing pads / sensors firsthand.
To reiterate a prior reply to your phenomenal wealth of P-Car knowledge......
Kind of reminds me of a favorite Groucho Marx quote:
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
I read somewhere that someone had good luck with hi-temp silicone ....might give that a try this time.
Ooooo, that could make a real mess. Have you tried the trimmable stick-on anti-squeal pads? I think Pelican carries them. I used them and have had no problems.
(I was SO tempted to type a row of asterisks instead of "Pelican" )
From what you read, what you deduced makes sense. I can picture how a lip on an extremely worn rotor could cut the sensor. Looking at the actual brakes, I don't think it's very likely.
Great! Now there's two of them!!!
Can I get some thoughts on the moon landing actually happening, or maybe Bigfoot?
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From what you read, what you deduced makes sense. I can picture how a lip on an extremely worn rotor could cut the sensor. Looking at the actual brakes, I don't think it's very likely.
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Great! Now there's two of them!!!
I don't think I was quite understood by Tim. Here's a clarification:
"From what you read, what you deduced makes sense. I can picture (in my mind) how a lip on an extremely worn rotor could (in theory) cut the sensor. Looking at the actual brakes, I don't think it's very likely (on par with the possibility of Bigfoot existing)."
I don't think I was quite understood by Tim. Here's a clarification:
"From what you read, what you deduced makes sense. I can picture (in my mind) how a lip on an extremely worn rotor could (in theory) cut the sensor. Looking at the actual brakes, I don't think it's very likely (on par with the possibility of Bigfoot existing)."
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