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Old 04-02-2015, 08:06 AM   #1
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Mindless and reckless driving = idiots

Survival tip: Anticipation and Safety --> serviced car on serviced roads = No problem to drive fast(er), if legal and circumstances/conditions are ok --> Autobahn

Basically seen it all after driving for decades on the Autobahn... most crashes on country roads though...Crash with 50 or 150mph = both can be deadly...even with 25mph
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In the spirit of full disclosure, I had my days of recklessness as a young man and did many foolish things so I fully understand the bravado tone of this discussion. That was long before I could afford a Porsche, track car or track days for that matter.

Not to be the old curmudgeon but there should be a voice of reason when it comes to driving the aforementioned speeds on public roads, it is seriously dangerous not just to the fool driving but to others on the road. Has anyone ever tried to recover or regain control of a car exceeding 150 mph, or 100 mph for that matter on a public road? Hint......You Don't.

Lastly, MANY years back, 155 mph in a Mustang Cobra at VIR before "Hog Pen". Many years before that 180 plus mph (wasn't checking speedo much) on a Suzuki GSXR on a different track..........

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55mph. :dance::dance::dance::dance:
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Cute.

I ask this in all seriousness; Have you ever been involved in or witnessed a high speed accident? Do you have any clue as to what happens to a passenger vehicle or the human body when they collide / tumble or strike something static at 150 plus mph?

Oh, I forgot, you like to make people pee their pants, in your automatic........
Apparently you missed post #39 of mine. I put nobody in danger but myself. As for the automatic, it's not slow and I get to keep both hands on the steering wheel at all times.


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55mph. :dance::dance::dance::dance:
Your state has highways with 65mph highways. My state has 70mph and then there are these, with Texas having 85mph.

Four states — Idaho, Texas, Utah and Wyoming — now have top authorized limits of at least 80 mph. A dozen more states have top speed limits of 75 mph, including Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma and South Dakota. Moreover, 22 additional states have a top speed limit of 70 mph, five of which (Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Tennessee) average 70 mph across their urban and rural interstates and other limited-access roads, as listed by the GHSA.

All those speeds can kill people, even 55mph.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:05 PM   #5
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Apparently you missed post #39 of mine. I put nobody in danger but myself. As for the automatic, it's not slow and I get to keep both hands on the steering wheel at all times.


I'm not going to trade any more barbs with you Kram, if you want to turn yourself into a smear on the road that's your call. Just think twice about the prospects of killing / maiming some poor unsuspecting guy and his family out of sight over the next rise.
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Old 04-02-2015, 01:57 PM   #6
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Survival tips:
Anticipate the stupidity (and carelessness) of other drivers ahead
Never underestimate aqua-planning, even at low speeds (the only reason why any car would hit a wall or bridge pillar frontally)
BIG Trucks --> exploding tyres or sudden lane changes or you name it

Knowing your car and conditions in general can make legal high speed travelling safe(r)...but you'll never know the actions of other drivers...ALWAYS EXPECT THE WORST and anticipate them...that is your life insurance for the Autobahn.

Just imagine going @+150mph left lane...sudden lane change of another car @50mph...EXPECT THE WORST
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I've avoided this thread as I know reading too much would just annoy the heck out of me. I'm a big believer of staying within a reasonable amount of the speed limit and just generally not driving like a jerk.

Many have said - I anticipate, or, I only do it when no one is around, or some other such nonsense.

Seriously - if you want to drive like a jerk and put everyone's safety in jeopardy - go to the track. That's why we have tracks. And to talk about anticipating things - mechanical failures happen. Tires do blowout. I would bet that most people who get in an accident 'didn't mean to'.

Oh well, I guess this thread does help separate the selfish from those who actually think of others.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:57 PM   #8
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Yep, Giller you're right.

That is a no brainer of course:
High Speed ONLY where it is legal. Illegal speeding endangers EVERYONE as it cannot be anticipated, ERGO endangers everyone.

As I regularly drive on US/Canadian roads, I know there are a lot of "scary" star wars drivers on your roads, you guys just don't like to follow "rules" as happily as we do over here

...oh and I have seen some junkers on the roads, they would not last a day over here, would be a feast for the Polizei telling people how to keep roads safe. Just install stricter laws (mandatory driving schools, Tüv, zero alcohol tolerance, point system with the possibility to loose your drivers license, etc.) and there is no reason, why you guys should not have a "safe" Autobahn.

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I've avoided this thread as I know reading too much would just annoy the heck out of me. I'm a big believer of staying within a reasonable amount of the speed limit and just generally not driving like a jerk.

Many have said - I anticipate, or, I only do it when no one is around, or some other such nonsense.

Seriously - if you want to drive like a jerk and put everyone's safety in jeopardy - go to the track. That's why we have tracks. And to talk about anticipating things - mechanical failures happen. Tires do blowout. I would bet that most people who get in an accident 'didn't mean to'.

Oh well, I guess this thread does help separate the selfish from those who actually think of others.
You obviously have not read my post. A good place to start would be post #4.

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Yep, Giller you're right.

That is a no brainer of course:
High Speed ONLY where it is legal. Illegal speeding endangers EVERYONE as it cannot be anticipated, ERGO endangers everyone.

As I regularly drive on US/Canadian roads, I know there are a lot of "scary" star wars drivers on your roads, you guys just don't like to follow "rules" as happily as we do over here

...oh and I have seen some junkers on the roads, they would not last a day over here, would be a feast for the Polizei telling people how to keep roads safe. Just install stricter laws (mandatory driving schools, Tüv, zero alcohol tolerance, point system with the possibility to loose your drivers license, etc.) and there is no reason, why you guys should not have a "safe" Autobahn.

Actually the stretch of highway I was on is just as good as the Autobahn, although there does need to be wire barrier installed through there. On down further that road turns from 70 mph to 65 mph and they have the wire barriers there.

After thinking about it, they probably don't put the wire barrier there so the police can cross the median and go after someone speeding. BTW: If you do 70 mph through there with normal traffic, you'll get ran over, it's a very long stretch of highway.

Follow I-435 and you'll see. I got on at the 96st on ramp and exited at the 152 off ramp.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kansas+City,+MO+64163,+USA/@39.3219357,-94.699728,17z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87c05dc50a8d3c7f:0xa12a7b810e967 e6a
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Alright. Since you've decided to continue I will state it bluntly........Grow up and keep your childish antics off of the streets.

I believe the old adage applies here......Your freedom ends where my nose begins.....which in turn says don't act the jackass if it endangers others. Simple Enough?

Oh, and I'm sure this occurred purely because Google maps wasn't available at the time........



Don't let your arrogance and stupidity cause others harm, you're fooling yourself to think otherwise.
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Alright. Since you've decided to continue I will state it bluntly........Grow up and keep your childish antics off of the streets.

I believe the old adage applies here......Your freedom ends where my nose begins.....which in turn says don't act the jackass if it endangers others. Simple Enough?

Oh, and I'm sure this occurred purely because Google maps wasn't available at the time........



Don't let your arrogance and stupidity cause others harm, you're fooling yourself to think otherwise.
Apparently you can't read. Post #4

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Oh yeah there is more lol. My previous was 132 MPH, different stretch of highway.

I just happened to hit a nice long stretch with no cars for miles, so I blew the dust out of her. Yeah the car felt completely planted the whole time. I could have got more, but had to slow down for my exit.

I've read the top speed of a Boxster S is 164 MPH. Is that governed or just an estimate?
Once again I put nobody in danger but myself. You don't end my freedom, I'll drive however the hell I want to drive if I'm only putting myself in danger, simple enough?

More then likely you're being a hypocrite, like you never driven your Boxster spiritedly on any public road. Save it bud.

EDIT: WTF are you talking about on Google maps?
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Once again I put nobody in danger but myself. You don't end my freedom, I'll drive however the hell I want to drive if I'm only putting myself in danger.

More then likely you're being a hypocrite, like you never driven your Boxster spiritedly on any public road. Save it bud.

151 mph equals Spirited Driving?

Honest Question........ Does it Hurt to be That Stupid?
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Maybe I'm reading more into it, since you posted that in this thread and I said there were no cars for miles.

I stay within 4 mph over the speed limit most of the time myself and I get passed a lot. I even set the "gong" on my 4 stalk mod to alert me of my speed just in case I'm not paying attention.

FYI: You can get a ticket for exhibition of speed without going over the speed limit.
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As far as race tracks near me. Nothing for what this car is meant to do.

Missouri Race Track Directory of Asphalt & Dirt Tracks & Drag Strips - RacingIn.com

Although, once I get the rest of my upgrade done I plan on running it through the 1/4 mile. I got a guy on another forum that insist unless you have a time slip of your run, you're just a keyboard racer. The guy has a Subaru WXti or what ever they are called and thinks he is a great driver. It's his all wheel drive that gets his good times. He posted a video of him running the 1/4 mile, all he did was mash the throttle and slam gears, no finesses at all. He was racing a hopped up S-10 truck and that truck would have never been in the video if he didn't have all wheel drive. It ate him for lunch. I'll have to find that video, so funny as his wife is with him and to watch her eyes follow the truck as it passed him is sooooo funny.

Ugly ass car IMO.



Found the video.

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Hard to condone blatantly illegal activity, even if we all do it sometimes. But the fact is there are limited circumstances in which the only significant risk is to the driver making the decision, and KRAM describes such a circumstance. This is America, and I still believe people should be free from having their individual choices curtailed by law o r public censure unless some greater good is served. Aside from the nebulous potential cost of pooled insurance risk, wreck debris removal, uncompensated health care, etc, I am not harmed in the least by what another person does on an empty road!
Our personal freedoms seem to diminish daily in the face of theoretical or possible good, or the postulated effects of categorically applying a singular situational decision across an entire populace in all situations. I guess the idea is to remove all thinking and all personal responsibility by never doing something that the whole collective group hasn't endorsed for all situations.

I say choose your moments Very Carefully, and if so inclined, let 'er rip.

The condescending holier-than-thou diatribe was to be expected, but is still disappointing, particularly given the sources as coming from valued forum contributors. I think the attidude is more bothersome than the viewpoint, which I agree with except for very limited circumstances.
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wow...you guys do know, that there is a full moon coming...

"The own freedom ends, where it violates the freedom of another"
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All right, I was lying when I said I drove my lowered, flywheel-lightened Boxster 'S' to an indicated 265 WITH a passenger....

Safety and risk is a matter of degrees once you know what you're doing. For example; A tire blow-out at a legal 75 would result in a veer, road edge struggle and a ricochet and roll-over with some drivers.
I assume that rolling a convertible at 80 mph or greater will result in death so I don't do it--EVER! Wait a minute-- should they be building convertibles? And damn I feel unsafe when I see a 1-ton pick up coming my way and the bumper height is the same as my head when in a 'sports car'. And then there's the inertia of a 1 ton and what it does to my compact...
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All right, I was lying when I said I drove my lowered, flywheel-lightened Boxster 'S' to an indicated 265 WITH a passenger....
Your previous post never mentioned a passenger?

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