Go Back   986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-09-2014, 01:59 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Chuck W.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Agoura Hills (LA) So.Cal.
Posts: 1,571
Litronics Headlights on CL for $700

This seems like a fair price. No affiliation and so on..

Porsche 996 Boxter litronics headlights



__________________
1995 Porsche C4 Cab

2016 BMW M2, 6 Speed LBB - ED 7/2016
1997 993 Cab - Sold; 1997 993 Turbo - Sold
2001 Boxster S - Original Owner - 30K Miles -SOLD
Chuck W. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2014, 04:56 PM   #2
I am my own mechanic....
 
Timco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,433
When I was backed into they were $3200 per side new.
__________________
'04 Boxster S 50 Jahre 550 Spyder Anniversary Special Edition, 851 of 1953, 6-sp, IMS/RMS, GT Metallic silver, cocoa brown leather SOLD to member Broken Linkage.
'08 VW Touareg T-3 wife's car
'13 F150 Super Crew long bed 4x4 w/ Ego Boost
Timco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2014, 06:38 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Chuck W.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Agoura Hills (LA) So.Cal.
Posts: 1,571
In 2001 the MSRP sticker price for Xenon Headlights was $1070.
__________________
1995 Porsche C4 Cab

2016 BMW M2, 6 Speed LBB - ED 7/2016
1997 993 Cab - Sold; 1997 993 Turbo - Sold
2001 Boxster S - Original Owner - 30K Miles -SOLD
Chuck W. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2014, 07:02 PM   #4
Registered User
 
KevinH1990's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,368
I'm already halfway into a litronic upgrade project. http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/54697-advice-used-litronics.html

I'm going to need to polish mine before they look that good. Someone is going to get a great deal.

Pelican is listing new lights for $1305 (Left) and $1191 (Right) Project 85: Litronic Headlamp Kit Upgrade - Page 1

So if someone charged you $3200 a side that seems quite a bit too high.
__________________
2000 Arctic Silver/Black, Hard Top, On Board Computer
PNP Rear Speakers, HAES 6-channel amp, Avic Z140BH,
Painted Bumperettes, 2004 (OEM) Top and Frame
Homelink transmitter integrated in dash with Targa switch
Carrera Gauge Cluster with silver gauge faces, heated seats, litronics, painted console
KevinH1990 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2014, 08:13 PM   #5
I am my own mechanic....
 
Timco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinH1990 View Post
I'm already halfway into a litronic upgrade project. http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/54697-advice-used-litronics.html

I'm going to need to polish mine before they look that good. Someone is going to get a great deal.

Pelican is listing new lights for $1305 (Left) and $1191 (Right) Project 85: Litronic Headlamp Kit Upgrade - Page 1

So if someone charged you $3200 a side that seems quite a bit too high.
That's the price on the insurance invoice. I didn't pay anything. They said they were ordered direct from Porsche.
__________________
'04 Boxster S 50 Jahre 550 Spyder Anniversary Special Edition, 851 of 1953, 6-sp, IMS/RMS, GT Metallic silver, cocoa brown leather SOLD to member Broken Linkage.
'08 VW Touareg T-3 wife's car
'13 F150 Super Crew long bed 4x4 w/ Ego Boost
Timco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 08:57 AM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Posts: 327
Are these "plug and play"? I have standard headlights on my 2001 S and would love to upgrade. What else would I need to buy in order to make these work?

Thanks in advance.

John
jpc763 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 09:19 AM   #7
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,696
Lower price reflects that they are aftermarket. Sounds like a question for our resident litronics development team (if Hella and Porsche units are one and the same).
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 09:25 AM   #8
Custom User Title Here
 
particlewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WA
Posts: 6,008
Garage
It is my understanding that they are the same brand; Hella, Bosch, Magneti Marelli, Automotive Lighting are all the same headlight with same part #'s, mold marks, etc.

Hella makes the bulb sockets and connectors, Automotive Lighting is just the name of the joint project between Bosch and MM. Same...

Last edited by particlewave; 11-10-2014 at 09:34 AM.
particlewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 09:28 AM   #9
Custom User Title Here
 
particlewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WA
Posts: 6,008
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc763 View Post
Are these "plug and play"? I have standard headlights on my 2001 S and would love to upgrade. What else would I need to buy in order to make these work?

Thanks in advance.

John
No. They require level sensors and controllers. You can run without them, but who knows what position they were left in (one may be pointing at the ground, etc).
particlewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 10:30 AM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Posts: 327
Quote:
Originally Posted by particlewave View Post
No. They require level sensors and controllers. You can run without them, but who knows what position they were left in (one may be pointing at the ground, etc).
So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?

John
jpc763 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 11:27 AM   #11
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,696
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc763 View Post
So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?

John
All factory and aftermarket Litronics are "plug and Play". Particlewave was referring to factory-installed self-leveling Litronics. The wiring in those can't really be re-created as a DIY upgrade.
You lose the self-leveling function if you just slide in the Litronics to upgrade the halongen units.


But I'm pretty sure that these aftermarket lights ChuckW has posted don't have self-leveling and instead use the special tool to manually lower or raise the projector height into a fixed position.
I'm not sure how you would correct the position of the projector in a used factory self-leveling unit if went into a new car. I'm going to guess that you can still use the special tool on those since the housing is probably the same?
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW

Last edited by Perfectlap; 11-10-2014 at 11:31 AM.
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 11:33 AM   #12
Custom User Title Here
 
particlewave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: WA
Posts: 6,008
Garage
The person that wrote that ad seems to be a little confused. There are no aftermarket headlights for these cars except for the LED style eBay units.

The headlights in the ad are OEM.

Hella is OEM.

There's only 1 "Litronics".
particlewave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 11:49 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,696
^ I think he's confused the way I was confused. If you walk into the Porsche dealership and pay out the nose you get the Porsche branded OEM units. If you order Litronics online from a non-Porsche website you get these Hella units that don't come in Porsche packaging?
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 11:51 AM   #14
Registered User
 
kjc2050's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 852
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc763 View Post
So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?

John
Many owners of cars with standard halogen lights have retrofitted litronics w/o the level sensors and controllers. I know I have, and I've had no issues.
__________________
2000 Boxster S, 6 speed, Sport Package, Litronics, LED tail lights, LNE IMS-B, OBC, Skybreaker wind deflector, Arctic Silver/Graphite Grey
kjc2050 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 03:55 PM   #15
I am my own mechanic....
 
Timco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 3,433
This.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap View Post
^ I think he's confused the way I was confused. If you walk into the Porsche dealership and pay out the nose you get the Porsche branded OEM units. If you order Litronics online from a non-Porsche website you get these Hella units that don't come in Porsche packaging?
Many aftermarket lights specifically state they don't meet DOT guidelines. Says right in the ad or website or on the light.

The Lits I refer to came in a Porsche box and my car has the leveling sensors on the control arms.
__________________
'04 Boxster S 50 Jahre 550 Spyder Anniversary Special Edition, 851 of 1953, 6-sp, IMS/RMS, GT Metallic silver, cocoa brown leather SOLD to member Broken Linkage.
'08 VW Touareg T-3 wife's car
'13 F150 Super Crew long bed 4x4 w/ Ego Boost
Timco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2014, 04:55 PM   #16
Registered User
 
Nine8Six's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Montreal, QC. (currently expat to Shanghai)
Posts: 3,085
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timco View Post
That's the price on the insurance invoice. I didn't pay anything. They said they were ordered direct from Porsche.
Tim - if those were ordered from DE directly then yes, most likely the price you saw on your invoice is correct. Things/tax/etc works a bit differently in Germany. Especially when it comes to car parts :/

You'd think the parts are cheaper when purchased in the automaker's backyard... well sadly, its the opposite. Go figure.....

__________________
______________________________
'97 Boxster base model 2.5L, Guards Red/Tan leather, with a new but old Alpine am/fm radio.
Nine8Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page