11-09-2014, 12:59 PM
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Litronics Headlights on CL for $700
This seems like a fair price. No affiliation and so on..
Porsche 996 Boxter litronics headlights
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11-09-2014, 03:56 PM
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When I was backed into they were $3200 per side new.
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11-09-2014, 05:38 PM
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In 2001 the MSRP sticker price for Xenon Headlights was $1070.
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11-09-2014, 06:02 PM
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I'm already halfway into a litronic upgrade project. http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/54697-advice-used-litronics.html
I'm going to need to polish mine before they look that good. Someone is going to get a great deal.
Pelican is listing new lights for $1305 (Left) and $1191 (Right) Project 85: Litronic Headlamp Kit Upgrade - Page 1
So if someone charged you $3200 a side that seems quite a bit too high.
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11-09-2014, 07:13 PM
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That's the price on the insurance invoice. I didn't pay anything. They said they were ordered direct from Porsche.
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11-10-2014, 07:57 AM
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Are these "plug and play"? I have standard headlights on my 2001 S and would love to upgrade. What else would I need to buy in order to make these work?
Thanks in advance.
John
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11-10-2014, 08:19 AM
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Lower price reflects that they are aftermarket. Sounds like a question for our resident litronics development team (if Hella and Porsche units are one and the same).
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11-10-2014, 08:25 AM
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It is my understanding that they are the same brand; Hella, Bosch, Magneti Marelli, Automotive Lighting are all the same headlight with same part #'s, mold marks, etc.
Hella makes the bulb sockets and connectors, Automotive Lighting is just the name of the joint project between Bosch and MM. Same...
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Last edited by particlewave; 11-10-2014 at 08:34 AM.
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11-10-2014, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jpc763
Are these "plug and play"? I have standard headlights on my 2001 S and would love to upgrade. What else would I need to buy in order to make these work?
Thanks in advance.
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No. They require level sensors and controllers. You can run without them, but who knows what position they were left in (one may be pointing at the ground, etc).
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11-10-2014, 09:30 AM
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No. They require level sensors and controllers. You can run without them, but who knows what position they were left in (one may be pointing at the ground, etc).
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So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?
John
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11-10-2014, 10:27 AM
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So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?
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All factory and aftermarket Litronics are "plug and Play". Particlewave was referring to factory-installed self-leveling Litronics. The wiring in those can't really be re-created as a DIY upgrade.
You lose the self-leveling function if you just slide in the Litronics to upgrade the halongen units.
But I'm pretty sure that these aftermarket lights ChuckW has posted don't have self-leveling and instead use the special tool to manually lower or raise the projector height into a fixed position.
I'm not sure how you would correct the position of the projector in a used factory self-leveling unit if went into a new car. I'm going to guess that you can still use the special tool on those since the housing is probably the same?
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11-10-2014, 10:33 AM
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The person that wrote that ad seems to be a little confused. There are no aftermarket headlights for these cars except for the LED style eBay units.
The headlights in the ad are OEM.
Hella is OEM.
There's only 1 "Litronics".
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11-10-2014, 10:49 AM
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^ I think he's confused the way I was confused. If you walk into the Porsche dealership and pay out the nose you get the Porsche branded OEM units. If you order Litronics online from a non-Porsche website you get these Hella units that don't come in Porsche packaging?
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11-10-2014, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc763
So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?
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Many owners of cars with standard halogen lights have retrofitted litronics w/o the level sensors and controllers. I know I have, and I've had no issues.
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11-10-2014, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap
^ I think he's confused the way I was confused. If you walk into the Porsche dealership and pay out the nose you get the Porsche branded OEM units. If you order Litronics online from a non-Porsche website you get these Hella units that don't come in Porsche packaging?
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Many aftermarket lights specifically state they don't meet DOT guidelines. Says right in the ad or website or on the light.
The Lits I refer to came in a Porsche box and my car has the leveling sensors on the control arms.
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11-10-2014, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timco
That's the price on the insurance invoice. I didn't pay anything. They said they were ordered direct from Porsche.
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Tim - if those were ordered from DE directly then yes, most likely the price you saw on your invoice is correct. Things/tax/etc works a bit differently in Germany. Especially when it comes to car parts :/
You'd think the parts are cheaper when purchased in the automaker's backyard... well sadly, its the opposite. Go figure.....
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