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Old 11-03-2014, 08:36 AM   #1
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New Boxster Owner / First Oil Change

I have always wanted a Porsche since I was a kid and finally got my first one. I bought a 2000 Boxster with 70k miles that I couldn't pass up the price. The oil change sticker says it's not due for another 3000 miles but didn't want to wait that long if that was at the 15k mile interval. I already bought the m1 oil, 8mm hex socket and filter cap tool but still need the filter. Any suggestions on brand and where to buy? Would you suggest a filter from a place like Autozone?

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Old 11-03-2014, 08:51 AM   #2
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Hi David, welcome to the forum and the world of Boxstering!

First, your questions have been answered many times on this forum. Please do a search to get all kinds of info.

Having said that, I'd change the oil right away if I had no idea when the last change was done. And change it every 5k miles (one summer driving season for me).

There is debate about using M1 oil. Many, including me, don't think it's the most cost effective oil available. (I use Castrol Syntec/Edge 5/40, only because I can't get 10/40.)

Consider getting the spin on oil filter adaptor, rather than using the stock oil filter setup. This avoids the potential for bypassing oil filtration, which is inherent in the stock filter canister. If you want to stick with the stock filter setup, use Wix/ Napa Gold. Fleetfilter is a good source.

To go the full mile, some are using magnets on their filter canisters as well.
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Congratulations. As for oil, as was said, everybody here has a preference and an opinion. I've been using Mobil 1 0/40 for six years with great luck. I buy the oil when it's on sale at O'Reily's. As for new ownership, the rule here is if there ain't pictures, it didn't happen.
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You can get the filters fast and easy from Pelican Parts.

Be sure to replace the drain plug washer as well, about $1.00

Clickman, why being in a colder climate would you want to use heavier oil?
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Hi David, welcome to the forum and the world of Boxstering!

First, your questions have been answered many times on this forum. Please do a search to get all kinds of info.

Having said that, I'd change the oil right away if I had no idea when the last change was done. And change it every 5k miles (one summer driving season for me).

There is debate about using M1 oil. Many, including me, don't think it's the most cost effective oil available. (I use Castrol Syntec/Edge 5/40, only because I can't get 10/40.)

Consider getting the spin on oil filter adaptor, rather than using the stock oil filter setup. This avoids the potential for bypassing oil filtration, which is inherent in the stock filter canister. If you want to stick with the stock filter setup, use Wix/ Napa Gold. Fleetfilter is a good source.

To go the full mile, some are using magnets on their filter canisters as well.
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Congratulations. As for oil, as was said, everybody here has a preference and an opinion. I've been using Mobil 1 0/40 for six years with great luck. I buy the oil when it's on sale at O'Reily's. As for new ownership, the rule here is if there ain't pictures, it didn't happen.
Lots of opinions on oil, M1 is fine, I used Motul 8100 5W40 on my last change. Every 5,000 miles or at least once per year.

+ 1 on the spin on adapter from LN - Full time oil filtration.

Also get the magnetic drain plug at the same time, easier to check for potential trouble.

Also, rule #1 on this forum, no pictures, it didn't happen

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I buy my oil at Walmart whenever I'm there. For me they have the best prices all year long. 24.99 for 5 Qts of Mobil 1 or Castrol edge/synthec.

Pep boys also has a big sale on Mobil 1 day after Thanksgiving.
Try not to overfill your oil. It's been known to cause AOS failures.

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Clickman, why being in a colder climate would you want to use heavier oil?
I went with the opinion of one of the site's great tech supporters, and that was his recommendation based on UOAs and cost. Regarding the climate, I only drive the car in the summer.
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Also get the magnetic drain plug at the same time, easier to check for potential trouble.
Or the IMS Guardian...
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So i am a newbie, and confused. Living in southern Ontario. I don't drive the car in the winter. It might be driven once or twice below 40F 5C.
It has 0/40 in it. Should i be using 5/40, or 10/40?
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I went with the opinion of one of the site's great tech supporters, and that was his recommendation based on UOAs and cost. Regarding the climate, I only drive the car in the summer.
cool, just wondering
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So i am a newbie, and confused. Living in southern Ontario. I don't drive the car in the winter. It might be driven once or twice below 40F 5C.
It has 0/40 in it. Should i be using 5/40, or 10/40?
I'm not an oil expert, but if you aren't driving in the winter - I wouldn't use a 0. It gets pretty toasty in the summer around here....I would think you would be fine with a 5 or even a 10?
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So i am a newbie, and confused. Living in southern Ontario. I don't drive the car in the winter. It might be driven once or twice below 40F 5C.
It has 0/40 in it. Should i be using 5/40, or 10/40?
Factory recommendation is 0/40
That being said, one of the worlds most knowledgeable individuals on the M96 engine recommends Joe Gibbs DT40 which is 5/40

Thinner oils (0w) will flow easier when it is cold than a heavier oil (5w, 10w, etc), making it easier to lubricate the engine before the engine and oil is at operating temperature

This may be of interest
Oil Viscosity
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Motor Oil Viscosity Grades Explained in Layman's Terms
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if 0 flows well at cold temperature, wouldn't it also flow well at hot temperature? meaning good for summer and winter? Or, is it just to thin for the really hot days?
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WARNING, WILL ROBINSON!!! WARNING!!!

Beware of draining the oil into a container that can't handle it. It's 9 quarts and it comes out in a torrent! I had one of those drain pans with the green plug you unscrew and there is no way in hell it could cope, oil flowed over the sides the first time I did it. Drill extra holes in it, like Swiss cheese, or you'll regret it.
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I'm sure the OP is still hoping for answers to his questions.

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Any suggestions on brand and where to buy?
Porsche, Mahle and Mann. Porsche dealer, Pelican Parts, ECS Tuning, Amazon; your local Porsche indie should also carry them.

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Would you suggest a filter from a place like Autozone?
In a pinch, you can certainly get a filter from Autozone. They carry Fram and K&N filters.

Don't forget the crush ring!

Just sayin'.............

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WARNING, WILL ROBINSON!!! WARNING!!!

Beware of draining the oil into a container that can't handle it. It's 9 quarts and it comes out in a torrent! I had one of those drain pans with the green plug you unscrew and there is no way in hell it could cope, oil flowed over the sides the first time I did it. Drill extra holes in it, like Swiss cheese, or you'll regret it.
That is a fact, but nothing compared to the oil storm from a VW Touareg. I have this pan and it works well to drain the Porsche, the Touareg and my Triumph motorcycle into before taking it down to be recycled.

NAPA AUTO PARTS

You can find it at most chain auto parts stores.
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if 0 flows well at cold temperature, wouldn't it also flow well at hot temperature? meaning good for summer and winter? Or, is it just to thin for the really hot days?
Check out the links in post #12 above., It will give you some insight into multi-viscosity oil

0/40 is fine for hot and cold climates
but I ain't no oil expert
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Thanks for all the replies. I picked up a Mann at Napa. Oil change is done. Will post pictures when I figure out how.
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Have a look at Post 14 in this thread regarding Mann/Mahle filters:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/26921-spin-oil-filter-adapter-void-my-warranty.html

And this thread:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/35564-ln-spin-oil-filter-adapter-3.html

Once you get past the arguments in the latter thread, the facts show a shop that works on a lot of Porsches finding quality problems with the stock filters.

I currently use the Napa Gold 7211 filter, but am planning to change to the spin on oil filter to ensure full filtration all the time. I'll be doing my winter bedtime oil change in a few days and out of curiosity am planning to check the status of the bypass valve in the stock filter canister.

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