10-11-2014, 01:50 PM
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Motorist & Coffee Drinker
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IMS bearing Used?
I was just browsing eBay and saw a USED LN IMS bearing. I like a good deal, but who would think that a used IMS bearing is a good idea at any price?
Anybody want a used oil filter? I got a few only 3000 miles on em. Probably good for another 2-5K.
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10-11-2014, 02:03 PM
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Amazing what people will try to flog. But I bet someone buys it...
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2001 Boxster, 5 spd, Seal Grey
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10-11-2014, 02:45 PM
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Wouldn't put it my car if it was free. Why would anyone go through the labor/cost of replacing the IMS just to put a used one in?
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10-11-2014, 03:00 PM
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There is a larger problem here. Installing an IMS bearing puts all the load on the outer race and none on the balls and cages. Extracting an IMS does exactly the opposite, all the load is on the balls and cages. This is why LN tell people to never reuse one of their bearings, even if it only got cocked during installation, because the ceramic balls are now compromised. Once it has been pulled on by the center bolt, it is toast..............
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10-11-2014, 04:25 PM
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I may be wrong, but that bearing has a oil seal on it - I think the LN bearings are open sided!
There are a load of IMS bearings on ebay - all a bit dodgy if you ask me.
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10-11-2014, 04:49 PM
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still plays with cars...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njbray
I may be wrong, but that bearing has a oil seal on it - I think the LN bearings are open sided!
There are a load of IMS bearings on ebay - all a bit dodgy if you ask me.
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The back side of the bearing will have an oil seal of some sort to keep oil out of the IMS tube.
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Six speed 2000 Boxster S
Arctic Silver on Metropol Blue | LN Dual Row IMSR | Arctic Silver console, spoiler frame & bumperettes | Crios mod | Technobrace | RoboTop module & modified convertible top relay for one-touch roof operation
Last edited by BoxsterSteve; 10-11-2014 at 04:52 PM.
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10-11-2014, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njbray
I may be wrong, but that bearing has a oil seal on it - I think the LN bearings are open sided!
There are a load of IMS bearings on ebay - all a bit dodgy if you ask me.
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The earlier LNE bearings had bearing covers (not seals), in fact both of the LNE bearing I purchased in the past had these covers on them. LNE has since eliminated these covers for better lubrication, I believe.
I have two bearing assemblies for sale if anyone is interested. 
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300K Mile Club
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10-11-2014, 06:19 PM
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still plays with cars...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager
I have two bearing assemblies for sale if anyone is interested. |
Awesome! I'll take 'em both. Never hurts to have a back-up in case the first one goes for a s#!*. 
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Six speed 2000 Boxster S
Arctic Silver on Metropol Blue | LN Dual Row IMSR | Arctic Silver console, spoiler frame & bumperettes | Crios mod | Technobrace | RoboTop module & modified convertible top relay for one-touch roof operation
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10-12-2014, 08:16 AM
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On man I want to ask him why he changed it out.Maybe he has some scored rotors for cheap ? And free shipping. ! 
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Last edited by Xpit77; 10-12-2014 at 08:20 AM.
Reason: freakie fast shipping too
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10-12-2014, 08:25 AM
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FOR SALE : Used underwear pre-stained with DNA front and back. Waste band slightly stretched but overall good condition
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2002 Boxster S Arctic Silver with black top with glass window and black leather interior. Jake Raby 3.6 SS ( the beast ) with IMS Solution. 996 GT3 front bumper , GT3 rocker covers and GT3TEK rear diffuser and Joe Toth composites rear ducktail spoiler .
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10-12-2014, 07:14 PM
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Engine Surgeon
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Once that bearing was extracted, it was compromised..
Now, someone will buy it, it will fail and the guy who bought it will claim he was the original purchaser and then LN gets the blame. Its happened before!
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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10-12-2014, 07:34 PM
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Wow. I've seen this before. Original bearing fails then a replacement bearing is put in. Then the engine fails. Wait, I spent good money on a new IMS bearing, let me pull it and re-use it. You can see metallic debris all over the rear seal. Bearing is guaranteed to be contaminated and will fail, guaranteed.
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http://www.LNengineering.com
Home of Nickies, IMS Retrofit, and IMS Solution
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10-13-2014, 08:37 AM
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Not mentioned: You're getting the new flange, which is the high-dollar part. That bearing can be had online for less than $50. Of course, $350 is outrageous.
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10-13-2014, 01:19 PM
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Engine Surgeon
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Classic… This is when you can tell that these cars have become way too cheap to purchase.
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Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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10-13-2014, 01:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby
Classic… This is when you can tell that these cars have become way too cheap to purchase.
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Being "Jake Raby", I expect that you are right, but hopefully the really cheap ones will Darwin themselves back out of the market promptly.
For the next few years I hope to get one or two a year that needs TLC and bring them back to a decent standard.
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10-13-2014, 02:14 PM
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Engine Surgeon
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Affording to purchase them, and affording to own them are two dramatically different things.
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Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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10-13-2014, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby
Affording to purchase them, and affording to own them are two dramatically different things.
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Yes, and I don't mean to argue, I'm a learner. My thought is that the ones that are bought and not maintained correctly will not be cruising our highways for long. I have seen plenty of 944s, 928s & 924s on Craigslist in deplorable condition. A portion of all models are destined for that.
I work on cars recreationally. I can afford to lose (a little) money and time taking a neglected car and making it nice again. In the process I learn to improve my "Keeper".
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