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			Hi guys, 
Does anyone know if there's any difference among the Schnell's, B&M, and those $60 Ebay shifters?
 
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			12-17-2013, 02:41 AM
			
			
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			I fitted the cheap one off of ebay in my 2001 S. On the shifter I bought, I had to switch around the shift lever in the housing so that it sits straight up and down when the car is in neutral. I like it and notice no difference between it and the dealer installed short shifter ($800) in my Cayman.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-17-2013, 05:27 AM
			
			
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			I'm very interested in the answers you receive on this subject.  I'm also very interested in purchasing a short shifter and the cheap ones selling on Ebay have peaked my curiosity.  I don't mind paying for quality but I don't want to be a sucker and pay twice as much for basically the same product with just a different brand name stuck on it!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-17-2013, 07:10 AM
			
			
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			i would like to install a short shifter in my boxster . my 996 came with the B&M and I really like it . the ebay one looks like a copy of it  . I would also like to know if the ebay one  is any good  .
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-17-2013, 07:40 AM
			
			
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			12-17-2013, 08:51 AM
			
			
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			I installed the cheap eBay one. Yes you should turn the shifter around to stand straighter. 
I bought a stock shifter to convert just in case I didn't like it. It also made the change easier as all work was done before hand. Just simply change out. The B&M instructions are the best and easy to follow. 
 
If anyone is interested I have my stock shifter for sale $30 plus shipping. 
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			Installed a short shifter today and am a little worried something went wrong. The shifts have become very hard, moving back to neutral isn't smooth. 
 
Instructions followed to the letter. Shift cables marked and replaced at the exact same positions. Assembly went well. 
 
I do have to say that the short throw is nice and that the shifts are very crisp. Just very hard. Any thoughts?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-04-2014, 04:31 PM
			
			
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				Installed a short shifter today and am a little worried something went wrong. The shifts have become very hard, moving back to neutral isn't smooth. 
 
Instructions followed to the letter. Shift cables marked and replaced at the exact same positions. Assembly went well. 
 
I do have to say that the short throw is nice and that the shifts are very crisp. Just very hard. Any thoughts? 
			
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 The shifter is basically the same, just modified to shorten the throw, which reduces your leverage, requiring more effort from you. Cold weather makes it harder still.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I have tried the copy-cat options twice, two different types from eBay (blue B&m copies).   
 
From my experience they are inferior.  Feel great for a while, but the assembly loosened up horribly over time. It apparently has a much sloppier design tolerance.  Lots of left to right movement of the stick, before the carrier even moves. 
I was going to replace it anyway, so I attempted to disassemble it and rebuild it out of curiosity.  I found that the bearing had destroyed itself also (groves and misplaces ball-bearings). 
 
Now looking for a genuine B&M or Porsche..... anyone have a used one?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I hated the b&m that came with my tt. I switched it out with a 997 shifter and like it better, but may eventually end up with a 997 ssk. I started warming up to the b&m but it was just too much effort to drive all the time. 
 
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			02-15-2014, 01:41 PM
			
			
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			B & M on my base 5 speed for more than 10 years now.  I have used it on my other cars also.  Nothing like the real thing, shifts great, more direct and precise (tracked car for many years), no vibrations, and did not have to turn knob around because it sits straight after install in neutral. 
 
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			02-15-2014, 02:15 PM
			
			
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				I have tried the copy-cat options twice, two different types from eBay (blue B&m copies).   
 
From my experience they are inferior.  Feel great for a while, but the assembly loosened up horribly over time. It apparently has a much sloppier design tolerance.  Lots of left to right movement of the stick, before the carrier even moves. 
I was going to replace it anyway, so I attempted to disassemble it and rebuild it out of curiosity.  I found that the bearing had destroyed itself also (groves and misplaces ball-bearings). 
 
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That's why I want to change mine. I bought the car used and the shifter came with it. I took it apart the other day and found that there's no washers, which results in the stick wiggling left and right, and the cylindrical bearing pieces were falling out. Not sure if the brand name ones are more solid and sturdy.
		  
		
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
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