RIP Paul Walker - killed in a CGT's passenger seat

[Tucker2]

Sitting next to a coworker tonight on the bus on the way home...he said he had heard of a new video showing the actual crash. Not the security cam vids shown to date....but something new that came out late Pacific Time today. Anyone seen it? (I have not and am not claiming it exists....just asking).

[Timco]

Originally Posted by Tucker2

Sitting next to a coworker tonight on the bus on the way home...he said he had heard of a new video showing the actual crash. Not the security cam vids shown to date....but something new that came out late Pacific Time today. Anyone seen it? (I have not and am not claiming it exists....just asking).

Autopsy blames impact and fire for actor Paul Walker's death - CNN.com

Bottom corner under more video....

[Tucker2]

Originally Posted by Timco

Autopsy blames impact and fire for actor Paul Walker's death - CNN.com

Bottom corner under more video....

No....not that. I've seen that one. It's not a security camera view like the first couple videos I have personally seen. This is something hand-held supposedly. I am not trying to be a Troll...it's just that this co-worker is one of those encyclopedia types that tends to know about stuff a day before you hear about it and I was interested to see if anyone else had heard anything. The other comment about TMZ vid may be what he was talking about.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by Tucker2

No....not that. I've seen that one. It's not a security camera view like the first couple videos I have personally seen. This is something hand-held supposedly. I am not trying to be a Troll...it's just that this co-worker is one of those encyclopedia types that tends to know about stuff a day before you hear about it and I was interested to see if anyone else had heard anything. The other comment about TMZ vid may be what he was talking about.

The one shot by the occupants of the blue car with fart can exhaust?

[southernstar]

I agree with all who suggest that we should await some concrete evidence before jumping to conclusions. We should also understand that there is a very strong prospect of litigaton by the families of both of these men - and that as Porsche will have much deeper 'pockets', I suspect that there will be a strong motivation to find some way to blame the manufacturer. Remember the Audi 5000'sudden acceleration' fairy tail? It led to inflammatory coverage on 60 minutes and at least one successful lawsuit, even though the 'science' was a joke. Stand by folks.....

Brad

[trimer]

Originally Posted by southernstar

I agree with all who suggest that we should await some concrete evidence before jumping to conclusions. We should also understand that there is a very strong prospect of litigaton by the families of both of these men - and that as Porsche will have much deeper 'pockets', I suspect that there will be a strong motivation to find some way to blame the manufacturer. Remember the Audi 5000'sudden acceleration' fairy tail? It led to inflammatory coverage on 60 minutes and at least one successful lawsuit, even though the 'science' was a joke. Stand by folks.....

Brad

What kind of litigation could these family proceed with? Suing for driving a car? Im not trying to be a smart as% and this is not an attack on your post but in all seriousness, what possibly could they sue for? A blown tire? sue for the fact that they were driving a 600 plus horsepower car and Porsche shouldnt build that fast of a car? THis will be interesting to see.

[coreseller]

Litigation on this without a doubt will occur.

Another CGT crashed in 2006 at a track day event at California Speedway, the settlement was for $4.5 Million. The contributions to the settlement were about 49% from the estate of the driver, 41% from the track owners and the event organizers, 8% from Porsche, and 2% from the driver of the Ferrari that was claimed to have triggered the crash.

Tracy Rudl filed the lawsuit alleging the wrongful death of her husband, Corey Rudl, who was a passenger in the CGT owned and driven by Ben Keaton at the Ferrari Owners Club track day. Rudl was represented by attorney Craig McClellan, a former racer and a successful plaintiffs’ attorney from San Diego. As the CGT was traveling at about 130 mph on the straightaway, a Ferrari entered the track at a relatively slow speed. Keaton swerved to avoid it and the Porsche skidded into a concrete barrier wall, killing both men. The wall had been placed closer to the track than its original position, in order to enlarge the area behind it for use as a children’s play area during an earlier NASCAR race.

Discovery goes on and on but in the end it's going to get very ugly. It all makes you wonder why any car company would embark on selling such a vehicle.

[stephen wilson]

I'm a believer in personal accountability. If you choose to buy a "dangerous" car, without stability controls, that's on you, not the manufacturer.

I don't undeerstand how people get large payouts for on-track accidents of any sort. When you enter any such event, you assume responsibility, even for other driver's boneheaded moves.

[linklaw]

Originally Posted by trimer

What kind of litigation could these family proceed with? Suing for driving a car? Im not trying to be a smart as% and this is not an attack on your post but in all seriousness, what possibly could they sue for? A blown tire? sue for the fact that they were driving a 600 plus horsepower car and Porsche shouldnt build that fast of a car? THis will be interesting to see.

As far as the family of the driver is concerned, I would think that in order to be successful in any litigation they would have to prove that there was a mechanical malfunction with the car that caused the crash and driver's death. As for the passenger's family it is a completely different scenario. It is clear to me that if speed was a factor in the crash, the driver was the one operating the vehicle at the unsafe speed. Don't forget that "they" were not driving the car. Only one of them was the driver. Unless the passenger was reaching over and pushing the throttle or grabbing the steering wheel, I can't imagine how his family would not recover in a lawsuit against the driver. Driving a car at (presumably) double the speed limit is probably negligence per se. Failing to keep the vehicle under control and failing to stop it before the collision is negligence on the part of the driver. Since when does getting in a car with somebody give them a license to drive like a maniac and kill you? Is it any different than if the driver were intoxicated, crashed and killed his passenger?