IMS Solution installed

[evomind]

Im not a bearing expert but those pics look like its fine....

[Jake Raby]

It even runs more smoothly (OK, I am dreaming?).

I hear that all the time from those we have installed the technology for here.

The one time that I brought this point up on another forum I was chastised by the vendor haters. They said that it was absolutely impossible for this retrofit to allow the engine to run smoother than it previously did.

People.....

[pjv]

Took the outer seal off just now, Everything looks OK, and the bearing spins more freely with the seal off. But there is no lubricant other than a film of light oil that I can see, so I suppose the original lubricant is gone. It seems that the bearing was not in imminent danger of failing, but I wonder what the long term would have brought. I had an engine blow up in a car years ago, and finding a good used replacement engine seemed fraught with risks, so I would not enjoy doing it again, for the Boxster. I expected that the bearing would be OK. I'm still happy I did this.

[WhipE350]

Originally Posted by pjv

Took the outer seal off just now, Everything looks OK, and the bearing spins more freely with the seal off. But there is no lubricant other than a film of light oil that I can see, so I suppose the original lubricant is gone. It seems that the bearing was not in imminent danger of failing, but I wonder what the long term would have brought. I had an engine blow up in a car years ago, and finding a good used replacement engine seemed fraught with risks, so I would not enjoy doing it again, for the Boxster. I expected that the bearing would be OK. I'm still happy I did this.

You did the right thing, you'll sleep better with that single row piece of crapp out of there, and yes mine ran smoother with the new solution in, or it could have just been my relief that I installed it perfectly and my pride made me more happy

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by WhipE350

You did the right thing, you'll sleep better with that single row piece of crapp out of there, and yes mine ran smoother with the new solution in, or it could have just been my relief that I installed it perfectly and my pride made me more happy

+1, and as for the running more smoothly, why not? The IMSB has clearance (rattle) which by definition plays into the valve timing in some manner. If the solution reduces a minute variation in valve timing by tightening up the correlation between the crankshaft and valve timing it stands to reason the engine would run more smoothly. My story and I'm sticking with it.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

+1, and as for the running more smoothly, why not? The IMSB has clearance (rattle) which by definition plays into the valve timing in some manner. If the solution reduces a minute variation in valve timing by tightening up the correlation between the crankshaft and valve timing it stands to reason the engine would run more smoothly. My story and I'm sticking with it.

Absolutely.. But the "vendor haters" always have to ******************** about something.

[BigShow]

I'm considering a Boxster or 911 sometime in the next year. I'm looking at the Solution and Retrofit as preventative maintenance. I've been reading what Jake Raby and LN have been doing. Looks like a very thorough and well engineered set of solutions. I even spoke with the local independent shop that is authorized to install the Solution/Retrofit.

So, as someone considering buying in to the Porsche family I have some IMS economic observations or maybe questions.

From looking through various forums the installed cost for the IMS Retrofit is about $2,000 and the Solution is about $4,000, do I have that more or less right? Other work would probably be completed at the same time, but let's set that aside for a bit.

The recommended Retrofit life time is 50,000 miles, and the life of the solution is engine life time, right?

So, at double the cost the Solution pays for itself after 100,000 miles? I've seen reports of +200,000 mile and up Boxsters and 911's. So if you keep a Porsche for longer than 100,00 miles from date of Solution install it may be worth the extra cost.

Assume that you still have to replace the clutch every 50,000 miles and the effort to get to the clutch is the same as the IMS. Therefore in reality it takes a very, very long time for the Solution to pay for itself. Am I right or wrong?