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Old 09-24-2013, 10:15 AM   #1
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crazy Porsche crash...

LiveLeak.com - Rally Crash, Porsche 964 totalled and launched into the water.

was this dude asleep at the wheels???

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Old 09-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #2
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He's a very experienced rally driver, throttle stuck wide open and not enough time to cut motor. Both driver and co-driver escaped serious injury. In process of rebuilding the car. Interview in dutch but some footage of car being repaired:

Kleinjan nauwelijks onder de indruk van crash in Hellendoorn Rally

He said damage is not that bad and they will be back next year. His reaction to the crash, translated. "Well I have a black eye and my co driver caught a cold because of the water"

My favorite part is the guy who immediately shrugs off the crash and resumes staring at his phone, it's not just Americans lol.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:59 AM   #3
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^ They all say the same story!

Can't count the number of times I've seen this same mistake on many circuits I had the chance to hangout at. Locking the wheels + panic = fast and straight run to the nearest ditch

Not sleeping, just inexperienced is my best guess
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:13 AM   #4
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He's a very experienced rally driver, throttle stuck wide open and not enough time to cut motor. Both driver and co-driver escaped serious injury. In process of rebuilding the car. Interview in dutch but some footage of car being repaired:

Kleinjan nauwelijks onder de indruk van crash in Hellendoorn Rally

He said damage is not that bad and they will be back next year. His reaction to the crash, translated. "Well I have a black eye and my co driver caught a cold because of the water"

My favorite part is the guy who immediately shrugs off the crash and resumes staring at his phone, it's not just Americans lol.
In looking at the video in SLO-MO, I only see he's trying to brake hard before the barrier but I do not see him steer the wheel on the turn at all. Sorry but not buying the throttle stuck open excuse. Glad they both didn't get seriously hurt.
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I have to say that the first time that I watched this I was freaked about the co-driver being stuck under the water. Glad that he got out ok.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:27 PM   #6
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Well guys, it wasn't me doing the driving, I was just relaying what was reported over in Holland / Finland. Good to know we are blessed with such accomplished road rally drivers here on the Boxster Board.............
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Rough way to get your Porsche water cooled.
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No way to tell from the video, but I can tell you from first hand experience, if it was a stuck throttle, you won't just let off and steer out of it. Luckily I just went into a runoff area, not a barrier.
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Slap shifter into neutral &/or press clutch pedal to the floor?

See the wheel rim break off leaving the center bolted in place?
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Slap shifter into neutral &/or press clutch pedal to the floor?
Then turn and HANDBRAKE!

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OK, Have you guys actually had this happen? I have, you just can't think & react that quickly. I tried to hit the kill switch, and missed !

That's why it would be worth it for any racer to practice several response scenarios, building muscle memory in case it's ever needed.
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Might I add people are forgeting one thing. This guy is racing, so when do you think he is gonna brake? At the last second! So, time to lift of gaz, start braking, realizing gaz is stuck, it's already late to do anything.

It's not an old lady having her yaris gaz stuck on the flat long linear highway.

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Slap shifter into neutral &/or press clutch pedal to the floor?

See the wheel rim break off leaving the center bolted in place?
I had to watch it again after you mentioned the wheel breaking. That is not something you see often!

If I crashed a car and was embarrassed I would probably blame some mechanical part of the car too. If the throttle was stuck, wouldn't you continue to hear the engine rev? It appears to decrease prior to hitting the wall. Compare the WOT sound of him coming out of the corner to just prior to the "oh crap moment" when impact is unavoidable. It sounds like he let up prior to impact.

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I had to watch it again after you mentioned the wheel breaking. That is not something you see often!

If I crashed a car and was embarrassed I would probably blame some mechanical part of the car too.
That's ego, I have the same behavior. Sticky everything, gears, brakes, even tires are FREE to accuse

But commercial-wise, most often the sponsor(s) will request and pay for press conferences and interviews to be staged. Scripts in the lines of "mechanical failure" are 100% of the time used in any embarrassing scenario. Been in the business for a while to know.

The only 'mistake' allowed to be publically disclosed in professional (or sponsored) racing is to be passed by a faster racer. The rest is all mechanical failures. What else can it be.
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[QUOTE=jesseborgelt;365054]I had to watch it again after you mentioned the wheel breaking. That is not something you see often!

If I crashed a car and was embarrassed I would probably blame some mechanical part of the car too. If the throttle was stuck, wouldn't you continue to hear the engine rev? It appears to decrease prior to hitting the wall. Compare the WOT sound of him coming out of the corner to just prior to the "oh crap moment" when impact is unavoidable. It sounds like he let up prior to impact.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it does sound like the engine is much quieter. It's strange that he never seemed to turn the steering wheel.
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ALWAYS TURN THE WHEEL! LIFT AND TURN-- LIFT AND TURN-- LIFT AND TURN!!! Brain fade takes only a tenth of a second and then ALWAYS LIFT AND TURN!!

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