The Boxster, the poor man's porsche and Inferiority complex
 

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I'm pretty sure the 986 Porsche Boxster is the most successful car ever made by the company and the sole reason why Porsche is even still alive today and because of this I am very proud of my car.

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My boxster cost as much as a lot of the 996s I was looking at. I dont see it as anything less of a car because it is a boxster. I enjoy the size of the car, the power (always want more) but it is good and the looks are fantastic. As far as other 986 owners busting other peoples chops, that is just people being mean spirited...IMO.

Really?? Would a moderator please close this thread?

I don't see any haters here.

This is the coolest and most fun car I've ever had in my life, I love it! :)
Definitely dont feel inferior in it

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The Boxster handles better than the 911
 

The Boxster handles better than the ass heavy 911, period.

I haven't seen any one on this forum bash other 986 owners. This is by far the most friendly forum on the web. With that said, I would like to BASH the dude that started this thread. He clearly has no clue what it means to own a 986, and I think he has a major inferiority complex because he drives around in a Ford Pinto. Cheers mates!

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Love my Boxster and feel like I'm driving a race car every day.

I choose it because it suits ME!

To each their own. I'm glad not everyone drives a Boxster as I like having a unique and special car.

Every time someone revs, races by or flashes a thumbs up, I know its a compliment and I take it as such.

I can not say that I have noticed mean folks here, although sometimes there are some pretty strong differences of opinion, but we are all entitled to our own opinions and we can agree to disagree.

There are always some folks who have reason to be hostile in a forum as it may be their only place to vent on circumstances in their own life, like an IMS failure, car troubles, home troubles etc, and we just have to take it with a grain of salt and not engage in those discussions if they are upsetting to us.

Those threads quickly die out after the obligatory battle of egos has subsided and is an occupational hazard of being men/boys with Testosterone raging.

I'm curious about your examples of poor behavior, as I have not noticed it.

Honestly I think perhaps your post is whats refered to as a troll, an invitation to engage in some kind of debate.

If you have suggestions to improve this forum I'm open to hearing them, but bashing folks for their opinions is just poor sportsmanship.

The only reason that someone feels inferior about their Boxster is because they let other people set their personal agenda for them. But sadly in today's society people are expected to conform to "societal" norms rather than be singularly expressive.

As for my Boxster, it is what it is...a two seat roadster that brings miles of sunny delight when I take her out on the road.

Good to hear from you Madmod's...has been awhile and I had figured that you had lost yourself in the hill country since redoing your suspension!

As for cleaning up the place around here...I personally would watch out for the JD character...I hear he is placing GPS tracking devices in his key chains so he can selectively remove members from a remote location and no one will suspect!

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This.

Pointless Self Perpetuating Whining.
:barf:

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Madmods,

You must not spend very much time on the Carrera forums. This is by far, and I mean like a country mile, the most civil auto forum I've visited since the internets were born. Even the auto detailing forums have had more arguments over whether this wax is better than yours (epic death matches).

p.s.
Regarding the inferiority complex thing. First of all if you drive at least a 97-01 Boxster, you are essentially driving a Carrera by part number.
If you consider the unecesarily de-tuned Carrera engine in the Boxster as one part, and randomly pulled a part off the 986 there's a better chance that you'll be holding a 996 Carrera part than Boxster. The Boxster and Carrera were developed as essentially one design. Any other manufacturer producing cars with identical middle to front ends would have simply called the Boxster the Carrera Roadster, and of course this would have meant putting in a non-detuned engine. But Porsche masters at marketing as they are, came up with this forced hierarchy even though the parts bin betrays them. Then they went one better in the 987 series and presented to the world a simple Boxster variant (one with a tin top) as a car with a completely different name. What was esentially one car evolves into three, production costs slashed. The public none the wiser.

Also, I find that a many people won't drive a Boxster because of inferiority complex/insecurity. They bought into the highly effective Porsche marketing spin and feel that people will judge them as being less successful, or worse less masculine, if they aren't in the most expensive Porsche.
This same mentality applies to Miatas, Mini Coopers and maybe even the FRS. At the end of the day, the one Porsche that sets the bar in its class is still the Boxster. That's all it can do.

I love my Boxster, it is way cool, I grew up in L.A. and drove my Grandpa's Rover P4, at the time I thought it was uncool, but now I would trade one of my children for one.
I would buy this car before I get a 911
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Dude...go work on your car. Or drive it. Or something.
You're starting to show signs of internetsforumsitus :(

You need some air ;)

poor man's porsche my ass...the boxster may be cheaper but its still as expensive to maintain as a 911 or 944

I've visited all of them between the Boxster and previous cars. The interesting thing is that ignorance is not limited to any income or sticker price. The one constant seems to be that the less 'image' is involved and the more it has to do with actual driving, the racier the better, the more people actually discuss the car's performance merits and not the manufacturer's marketing B.S.
This B.S. soaks up the autoblogs and magazines which is then parrotted by people who have never driven any of the cars they claim to be 'chick cars', 'ricer cars', etc.

I think the thread you should consider starting is why Porsche's marketing strategy of casting a roadster as somehow being inferior to a grand touring has been so effective in the U.S. market. Simple sports car logic would say its the other way around, the roadster is the closer track/performance invention.

MadMods:

You ain't seen noth'in. You should have been here in late 2008 and 2009. We had posters accusing other posters of giving out incorrect and incompetent advice under multiple screen names and all sorts of rudeness. It got so bad the moderator had to start locking out threads. I must admit I even put myself on a self imposed exile for a while because I just grew weary of it.

But this site is like 986-crack. There are so many awesome people with great information they willingly share. Prior to purchasing my Boxster about the only auto repair I ever completed was to change the oil and do a basic tune up on my 95 Dodge truck. And that was only because there was an acre and a half of space under the hood. However, since joining this forum I have completed an AOS replacement, a full brake and sensor replacement, an alternator and serp. belt replacement, an HVAC display screen replacement and this weekend I am tackling a two stalk turn signal replacement. I would not have had a clue how to do any of this if were not for the help from this forum

I will admit I have a bit of an inferiority complex because I do not have the experience or know-how to share, but I sure appreciate what others have to share.

"How many of you here lack of self-worth, a doubt and uncertainty, and feeling of not measuring up to modern car standards and trends being owner of the cheapest available Porsche?!"


As a former 914 Owner I know!

Van914@aol.com

I don't feel inferior in any way shape or form. I drive a car that I love. Would I like to have a 911? Absolutely! But that does not take away from my love of the Boxster. I would love to live in an ocean front house in Laguna Beach, but that's not happening, and I don't feel inferior in my home here in Florida. I recognize that financially I am not able to afford a new Boxster, that's ok, I drive an 03. Is my car inferior to a brand new Boxster? Yep. Do I care? Nope. I love it and that is all that matters.

As for people being nasty here, I haven't felt that much at all. I am not a mechanically inclined person and have asked what I am sure are stupid questions to members here. Everytime there have been responses that either A) helped me solve the problem on my own, or B) Informed me of what needed to be done and I realized that I would not be able to do it on my own. Either way I got an answer with little or no snarkyness.

Seems to me that you got upset that most of the possters here did not like the center caps that you posted, and you took their dislike for them personally. Realize it is just an opinion, and it doesn't have to mach yours. No harm, no foul.

Getting popcorn out :cheers:

When I am complete modifying my car, I will be faster, better looking, and more fun to drive than any 911.

And I'd have saved a ton of money in my pocket. More like superiority complex.

For all the people who respond with thoughtful and insightful posts, seems to me you're wasting our time; looks like madmods had a bad day and is deliberately trying to piss people off. I guess he's mad because nobody liked the center lock look alikes that he wrote about ;-)

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Poor man ? My accountant says I have more money than Davy Crockett. :cool:

Hit the nail squarely on the head, lol! ;)

Seriously madmods...fresh air and real life can work wonders. :D

This.

Childish, this.

But do you have the cool cap?

p.p.p.p.S.

The sports car game is one of extremely diminishing returns. For the price of a Sonata, sorry a used Sonata, you can buy my car. Then you can get into a car that's like 5X's as much money but guess what? It's not 5X's faster. It's not 5X's better on the skidpad. It will only get you 5X's the number of compliments for which it extracts 5X's the number of greenbacks from your pot of gold.

That's the beautiful thing about Poor man's Porsches, whether its a 944 or 968 or Boxster, it makes you realize how much is spoon-fed markeing hype and how much actually translates on the road. That all being said, I would daily drive an F430 Scuderia with carbon fiber seats if price was no object and I had had Benjamins to light my Cohibas. But then that's kind of imoral too.

Agree completely

Yep, Boxster's suck!

Aug 17 San Diego Zone 8 AX TOP 10 TIMES: @Qualcomm , West Lot. 140 entries, built 911 hotrods, GT3's, 4 Ferrari's, Lotii, you name it...

Class, Car, Number, Name, Car, Year, Car Model

CC14 295 Kinninger, Erik 1981 911
CC11 594 Reinhardt, Martin 2007 Cayman S
CC11 504 Reinhardt, Jennifer 2007 Cayman S
CC15 95 Kinninger, Mark 1981 911
CC07 96 Vanderschuit, Carl 2006 Boxster
CC13 1004 carnevale, chad 2010 GT3
CC11 17 Young, Paul 1978 911SC
CC05 786 Zaidi, Hassan 1999 Boxster
CC10 666 Carusillo, Daniel 1976 911
CC12 514 Hill, Craig 2004 GT3

^ Was this SCCA or the wine and cheese crowd (PCA :))?

We call this trolling.... :troll: :troll: :troll:

People and language are complex and you would need more than a two day scan to BEGIN to understand the dynamics involved-
nothing in this world is what it seems so just go with it and stop trying to control everyone and everything-- you are not the boss here!:eek: