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rp17 08-23-2013 10:12 PM

Okay I'm replying to this dead thread. 911 is a status symbol from some of the comments I hear now that I own a boxster. If I had to buy a new Porshe (I wouldn't take that depriciation hit), I'm thinking what color and mods I want on the new boxster!

Porshe knows that if the put the bigger engine in the boxster like BMW does with the M's and Mercs AMGs, who would buy the 911? Okay maybe a few old school purist. But I like it this way.

Besides, the engine is is the wrong place!!

Crono0001 08-23-2013 10:40 PM

Fck guys, come on. Let this thread die, please.

911s are great cars. Boxsters are great cars.

You wanna go pick on cars? Go laugh at Mustangs.

RawleyD 08-23-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono0001 (Post 359086)
Fck guys, come on. Let this thread die, please.

911s are great cars. Boxsters are great cars.

You wanna go pick on cars? Go laugh at Mustangs.

lol. I really hate Mustangs..

I'm starting to feel the same way about Miatas now too. There's just so damn many of them!

madmods 08-23-2013 11:41 PM

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RawleyD 08-23-2013 11:47 PM

So why get a 986 instead of another 'Stang?

Besides just wanting a better looking auto. ;)

madmods 08-23-2013 11:47 PM

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madmods 08-23-2013 11:51 PM

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RawleyD 08-24-2013 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmods (Post 359095)
Because I thought maybe having a Land Roover (LR4) was more of my age and easier for draging two dogs around for weekly training and shows.

986 is a wrench toy. See alias just above my avatar

very cool.

This car is the very beginning of my wrenching days.! :)
My personal toy.

laphan 08-24-2013 05:14 AM

Well, not too add to this boxster/911 thing.
owning both 996 and 986 of the same year make me realize that people who think lowly on boxster normally not porsche owners or never driven a boxster before.
Once someone approached me in gas station filling up the boxster asking about boxster as cheap porsche and 911 is the real porsche. I shot him down by saying boxster is actually more like a real porsche than 911. He was not happy by saying that only people can't afford 911 can say that. So I pulled the 911 registration out of my pocket and showed him that I own both, definitely know porsche better than him, his face turned red and left.

I thought about selling the boxster after I decided to buy the 996. I cannot let my self selling the boxster, they are different cars. Boxster is more fun to drive, more like a go kart. 911 is more like a GT car, quiet and smooth. Main reason for 996 is the back seat for my daughter.

Also, try to push boxster and 911 to their limit with traction off, and see what happens.
I did and the results in 996 ain't pretty with the back end on the wrong side (almost no mercy when the rear end steps out)...

2003S 08-24-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawleyD (Post 359090)
lol. I really hate Mustangs..

I'm starting to feel the same way about Miatas now too. There's just so damn many of them!

Leaving O'Hare last night, I saw 3 986's before I even LEFT THE GARAGE. Felt like I was driving a friggin' Prius... I think I must have never noticed them before, but I certainly seem to see a lot of 986's now...

mountainman 08-24-2013 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laphan (Post 359125)
Well, not too add to this boxster/911 thing.
owning both 996 and 986 of the same year make me realize that people who think lowly on boxster normally not porsche owners or never driven a boxster before.
Once someone approached me in gas station filling up the boxster asking about boxster as cheap porsche and 911 is the real porsche. I shot him down by saying boxster is actually more like a real porsche than 911. He was not happy by saying that only people can't afford 911 can say that. So I pulled the 911 registration out of my pocket and showed him that I own both, definitely know porsche better than him, his face turned red and left.

I thought about selling the boxster after I decided to buy the 996. I cannot let my self selling the boxster, they are different cars. Boxster is more fun to drive, more like a go kart. 911 is more like a GT car, quiet and smooth. Main reason for 996 is the back seat for my daughter.

Also, try to push boxster and 911 to their limit with traction off, and see what happens.
I did and the results in 996 ain't pretty with the back end on the wrong side (almost no mercy when the rear end steps out)...

How true. I currently own a 986, a 987, and a carrera4. I enjoy driving the boxsters more than the 911's. And on spirited drives I have no problem running with the big guys in the curves.

TAKART 08-24-2013 09:07 AM

"owner of the cheapest available Porsche"

all I care. It is a Porsche and it is within my budget. I cannot afford a GT3 so I will have to be satisfied with this one for the moment. Maybe one day it will be different.

Many people are in the same situation so I feel fortunate already to own a Porsche. I already have a Superiority Complex haha

RandallNeighbour 08-24-2013 11:18 AM

I've no inferiority complex, but I want a 991S when I can afford one. I want far more power and a tin roof on my future porsche. Houston is not a good place for a Boxster IMO.

ChrisZang 08-24-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 359176)
I've no inferiority complex, but I want a 991S when I can afford one. I want far more power and a tin roof on my future porsche. Houston is not a good place for a Boxster IMO.

Don't wait for the 991S, 997.2S is good enough ...

RandallNeighbour 08-24-2013 02:35 PM

Chris, this is gonna sound crazy, but here goes nothing...

I want my next Pcar to be a DD. I like the interior of the 991 and want a PDK and a 3.8... And I want ventilated seats. Houston, Texas living/driving mandates it. Anyone from here will not argue its not a required feature on his or her next DD...

Let the harassment begin!

stephen wilson 08-24-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono0001 (Post 359086)
Fck guys, come on. Let this thread die, please.

911s are great cars. Boxsters are great cars.

You wanna go pick on cars? Go laugh at Mustangs.



Ah, if you don't like the thread, don't look at it . Simple huh?

ekam 08-25-2013 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAKART (Post 359158)
"owner of the cheapest available Porsche"

all I care. It is a Porsche and it is within my budget. I cannot afford a GT3 so I will have to be satisfied with this one for the moment. Maybe one day it will be different.

Many people are in the same situation so I feel fortunate already to own a Porsche. I already have a Superiority Complex haha

But more importantly, you live in Lyon where most people don't have a car, and if they do they drive their little Skodas...

I was there in June and the roads in the countryside is perfect for our Boxster. I missed not having my car when I was there.

heliguy 08-25-2013 06:03 AM

Danger, love the Forrest Gump quote!

tconnarn 08-25-2013 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by More (Post 358283)
I'm pretty sure the 986 Porsche Boxster is the most successful car ever made by the company and the sole reason why Porsche is even still alive today and because of this I am very proud of my car.

I was told by our local dealer that the Cayenne is their #1 selling vehicle. Beware! The Soccer Moms are taking over! I'll take my 986 S with the top down over an SUV or solid top car any day! People admire and compliment my 986 all the time. Haven't had to deal with many haters and the general public seems to see it as a very nice and expensive car. People are always shocked when in tell them how much they can buy one for at the current rates

ChrisZang 08-25-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 359206)
Chris, this is gonna sound crazy, but here goes nothing...

I want my next Pcar to be a DD. I like the interior of the 991 and want a PDK and a 3.8... And I want ventilated seats. Houston, Texas living/driving mandates it. Anyone from here will not argue its not a required feature on his or her next DD...

Let the harassment begin!

All the options you mention are available since MY 2009

Here's your car with all the options you want (sans ventilated seats) for less than $50k:
Selling my 2009 Porsche C2 PDK :( - 6speedonline.com Forums

cfos 08-25-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laphan (Post 359125)
Well, not too add to this boxster/911 thing.
owning both 996 and 986 of the same year make me realize that people who think lowly on boxster normally not porsche owners or never driven a boxster before.
Once someone approached me in gas station filling up the boxster asking about boxster as cheap porsche and 911 is the real porsche. I shot him down by saying boxster is actually more like a real porsche than 911. He was not happy by saying that only people can't afford 911 can say that. So I pulled the 911 registration out of my pocket and showed him that I own both, definitely know porsche better than him, his face turned red and left.

I thought about selling the boxster after I decided to buy the 996. I cannot let my self selling the boxster, they are different cars. Boxster is more fun to drive, more like a go kart. 911 is more like a GT car, quiet and smooth. Main reason for 996 is the back seat for my daughter.

Also, try to push boxster and 911 to their limit with traction off, and see what happens.
I did and the results in 996 ain't pretty with the back end on the wrong side (almost no mercy when the rear end steps out)...

Which prompts the question: Why do you carry your car's registration with you... if you aren't driving it? This is almost as mind-boggling to me as PL's statement about filling up somewhere that actually has a gas-station attendant... or worrying about what some stranger, that I'll never see again, says about me or my car... or feeling the need to regale him with my knowledge on all-things-historical about a car company. We get enough people *where I live* that come to my door proselytizing that I really feel no need to further engage with strangers in an attempt to convert them into a Boxster-Beliber or enter into a gas station for something overpriced and processed in exchange for forthcoming accolades. But that's me -- I don't go looking for conversations in gas stations, parking lots, or elsewhere -- not when I have the internet! ;) Carry on.

I'll just go wonder if I should carry registrations, tax statements, retirement summaries, and pictures of other sources of wealth as I grab the list for Target -- just in case I'm stopped.

cardiffgiant 08-25-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 359377)
Which prompts the question: Why do you carry your car's registration with you... if you aren't driving it? This is almost as mind-boggling to me as PL's statement about filling up somewhere that actually has a gas-station attendant... or worrying about what some stranger, that I'll never see again, says about me or my car... or feeling the need to regale him with my knowledge on all-things-historical about a car company. We get enough people *where I live* that come to my door proselytizing that I really feel no need to further engage with strangers in an attempt to convert them into a Boxster-Beliber or enter into a gas station for something overpriced and processed in exchange for forthcoming accolades. But that's me -- I don't go looking for conversations in gas stations, parking lots, or elsewhere -- not when I have the internet! ;) Carry on.

I'll just go wonder if I should carry registrations, tax statements, retirement summaries, and pictures of other sources of wealth as I grab the list for Target -- just in case I'm stopped.

I'm in full agreement with a lot of what you've said. I didn't buy the thing for anyone but myself and I don't give a crap what anyone thinks about my boxster, or any of my other financial or recreational choices.

I haven't had anyone look down on it, but I've had some interesting reactions.
-"what, did you rob a bank??" I work for a bank
-"mid life crisis?" Actually, yes. Most of the men in my family haven't lived to 70. I'm working toward a plan to improve my health, set myself up to retire in my 50s, and to have a great friggin time while I'm still young.
-I own some income property and one of my tenants reactions was "damn, you don't look like a rapper or football player!"

stephen wilson 08-25-2013 04:20 PM

We always have a gas station attendant in NJ, it's Illegal to pump your own gas!

Ian c 08-25-2013 05:07 PM

Conversation at gas stations is nothing new for me .
We get the "nice car!!" Thing almost every time one of us goes out .
Debbie's boxster even more so since the new wheels went on last week :cheers:

I followed her in the c4 as we dropped the boxster at the paintshop last week , and people's faces where priceless as she drove past :D
I saw her stop conversation a few times as we cruised pch ... One of the times was 3 old guys smoking and talking outside a bar in sunset beach . Two had their backs to the road and the one who spotted her car just pointed with an open mouth :LOL:

I guess things must be different in SoCal ... The auto culture is huge and ingrained upon all from an early age , and the amount of cool cars on the street at any given time has to be seen to be believed .

I am often giving people the thumbs up .
Probably more than I get them .

I seem to get more than my fair share of thumbs from bikers and older muscle car guys .

Ian c 08-25-2013 05:22 PM

Oh , and we went to the porsche club racing at Fontana speedway today in a new beetle ....

Try driving one of these if you're worried about the boxster comments !! r :lol:


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Johnny Danger 08-25-2013 06:17 PM

Is that a new style Beetle, or an older one ?

ChrisZang 08-25-2013 06:50 PM

the thread that keeps on giving :D

kashmir 08-25-2013 07:25 PM

I don't understand the debate, my Porsche boxter says Porsche on it. But what I have found is 911 owners are more clueless about their car. The bulk of boxter owners I have found tend to work on their own cars. Do all their maintenance and are more in tune to debate about the intermediate shaft bearing problem and so on. The 911 motor of this era has the same issues, it's basically the same car. But what I have found when I get a new customer of a 911 in and I asked him if the cars IMS has been changed or updated they look at me as if I'm talking another language. Here in Texas there is a saying about a man in a cowboy hat, that is a city slicker "all hat and no cattle". I tend to find these kind of folks driving the 911, the trophy wife is with them, that generally has more plastic on her that that GT3 he is driving, kind of "all hat and no cattle"type. And I really could care less if they look down their nose at me. For if they break down and I pull up alongside of them in my boxter and help them get the car back on the road, I wonder who is more the true enthusiast.

The other day I was riding with a friend in his air cooled 911 SC. We came up to a stoplight, some suit type pulled up in a GT R next to us. When the light turned green the GT R took off in launch mode. It was very impressive we had hardly made it to the second crosswalk line, the GT R was already in the next county. My friend turned to me as he shifted into second gear and said "it's still not a Porsche"

Ian c 08-25-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 359475)
Is that a new style Beetle, or an older one ?

It's an Old new beetle ....
The aircooled ones where ever called a beetle , but a type 1 .
I have one :of them D

Ian c 08-25-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kashmir (Post 359491)
I don't understand the debate, my Porsche boxter says Porsche on it. But what I have found is 911 owners are more clueless about their car. The bulk of boxter owners I have found tend to work on their own cars. Do all their maintenance and are more in tune to debate about the intermediate shaft bearing problem and so on. The 911 motor of this era has the same issues, it's basically the same car. But what I have found when I get a new customer of a 911 in and I asked him if the cars IMS has been changed or updated they look at me as if I'm talking another language. Here in Texas there is a saying about a man in a cowboy hat, that is a city slicker "all hat and no cattle". I tend to find these kind of folks driving the 911, the trophy wife is with them, that generally has more plastic on her that that GT3 he is driving, kind of "all hat and no cattle"type. And I really could care less if they look down their nose at me. For if they break down and I pull up alongside of them in my boxter and help them get the car back on the road, I wonder who is more the true enthusiast.

The other day I was riding with a friend in his air cooled 911 SC. We came up to a stoplight, some suit type pulled up in a GT R next to us. When the light turned green the GT R took off in launch mode. It was very impressive we had hardly made it to the second crosswalk line, the GT R was already in the next county. My friend turned to me as he shifted into second gear and said "it's still not a Porsche"

I've noted a few of your posts recently .
My advice is to stay away from the keyboard and concentrate on building your business
.
"All publicity is good publicity" rarely works in the automotive trade ;)

Crono0001 08-25-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kashmir (Post 359491)
The other day I was riding with a friend in his air cooled 911 SC. We came up to a stoplight, some suit type pulled up in a GT R next to us. When the light turned green the GT R took off in launch mode. It was very impressive we had hardly made it to the second crosswalk line, the GT R was already in the next county. My friend turned to me as he shifted into second gear and said "it's still not a Porsche"

Haha, great story.

I love GTRs though. They are amazing machines. They are what made me 'consider' a flappy paddle.

kashmir 08-25-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono0001 (Post 359503)
Haha, great story.

I love GTRs though. They are amazing machines. They are what made me 'consider' a flappy paddle.

They are very fast. I love them too :)

kashmir 08-25-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian c (Post 359501)
I've noted a few of your posts recently .
My advice is to stay away from the keyboard and concentrate on building your business
.
"All publicity is good publicity" rarely works in the automotive trade ;)

“You can have any colour you want, so long as it is black" Henry Ford

Ian c 08-25-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kashmir (Post 359505)
“You can have any colour you want, so long as it is black" Henry Ford

"I dropped a car off the trolley jack" : nobody I would ever deal with ...

laphan 08-26-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 359377)
Which prompts the question: Why do you carry your car's registration with you... if you aren't driving it? This is almost as mind-boggling to me as PL's statement about filling up somewhere that actually has a gas-station attendant... or worrying about what some stranger, that I'll never see again, says about me or my car... or feeling the need to regale him with my knowledge on all-things-historical about a car company. We get enough people *where I live* that come to my door proselytizing that I really feel no need to further engage with strangers in an attempt to convert them into a Boxster-Beliber or enter into a gas station for something overpriced and processed in exchange for forthcoming accolades. But that's me -- I don't go looking for conversations in gas stations, parking lots, or elsewhere -- not when I have the internet! ;) Carry on.

I'll just go wonder if I should carry registrations, tax statements, retirement summaries, and pictures of other sources of wealth as I grab the list for Target -- just in case I'm stopped.

Well, where I live, I got pulled over ALOT by cops to just want to make sure that my car is not a stolen vehicle (welcome to Detroit). Happened 3 times last year on me and twice I could not find my registration and ticketed for that. There are 2 sides/copies on registration papers in MI, so I left one in the car and the other in my wallet.
Well, this person in the gas station was driving an M3. I was there first and he pulled in and started the conversation.


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