01-12-2006, 11:02 AM
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Hi,
IIRC, the Dealers offer a 2-year, 24k mi. warranty on the new RMS. I have a friend with an '04 S who had a Catastrophic RMS Failure at 7k mi. - walked out to his Garage one morning to find 10 qts. Mobil 1 all over the floor - cost $2000+ for EPA certified HazMat clean-up!
After some considerable haggling, PAG paid for the Clean-up, replaced the engine and altered all his paperwork to reflect the new Engine # in the Build Sheets, and Import Papers, etc., essentially removing all trace of the Failure from his VIN# history. I believe they did this due to the 'Newness' of the Car, but as I said, it took some finageling by my friend (possibly through an Attorney), citing among other things 'Diminished Value'...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-12-2006, 11:37 AM
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Jim
Sounds like this guy may have had more than a RMS leak, ie perhaps the whole crankshaft assembly had let go in some way.
Wow, that is NOT encouraging!
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01-12-2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
Jim
Sounds like this guy may have had more than a RMS leak, ie perhaps the whole crankshaft assembly had let go in some way.
Wow, that is NOT encouraging!

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Hi,
Porsche diagnosed it as RMS Failure, along with it's Red-Headed Stepchild of a Cousin... wait for it... Intermediate Shaft Failure!!...
I've done some casual research and cannot find another Model from any Marque, since the M96 introduction, which has essentially continuous inherent failures as Severe (apparently immune to Care, Driving Style, etc.) or anywhere to the same degree as the Porsche M96 Engine. Weren't we Bashing the Corvette just last week???
I know... I know... Great Car (when it performs - the Key Turns, the CEL stays Off, the Windows operate, the Top closes...), Outstanding Provenance (what have you done for me lately?), YADA, YADA, YADA...Can't wait to hear the Die-Hard Porschephiles speak up defending the Marque... sorta gets me feeling that I'm standing in the Crowd at the Party Rally in Nuremburg... Sieg Porsche!!... Porsche Uberales!!!...
Happy Motoring... Jim'99
Last edited by MNBoxster; 01-12-2006 at 03:39 PM.
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01-12-2006, 01:35 PM
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If memory serves, they have been making this engine since 1997. To keep having these kinds of DESIGN issues is really appalling, at least to me it is.
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01-12-2006, 02:30 PM
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IIRC, the Dealers offer a 2-year, 24k mi. warranty on the new RMS. I have a friend with an '04 S who had a Catastrophic RMS Failure at 7k mi. - walked out to his Garage one morning to find 10 qts. Mobil 1 all over the floor - cost $2000+ for EPA certified HazMat clean-up!
Now thats some serious jack to clean up some oil on the old garage floor. Usually some spedi-dry or cat litter and a garbage can is all you would need. You must have some strict epa rules ya
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01-12-2006, 03:10 PM
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Where's my stinkin' soap box? Must I start ranting again about the RMS issue and Porsche's willfull neglect to spend the money to fix it once and for all?
I think not. I'm in a good mood and I shall not allow myself to ruin my perfectly good mood this evening. :dance:
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01-12-2006, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBoyS
IIRC, the Dealers offer a 2-year, 24k mi. warranty on the new RMS. I have a friend with an '04 S who had a Catastrophic RMS Failure at 7k mi. - walked out to his Garage one morning to find 10 qts. Mobil 1 all over the floor - cost $2000+ for EPA certified HazMat clean-up!
Now thats some serious jack to clean up some oil on the old garage floor. Usually some spedi-dry or cat litter and a garbage can is all you would need. You must have some strict epa rules ya
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Hi,
My buddy lives in the Country - Custom Built Home literally in the Middle of a Cornfield (which he owns and leases out to a local Farmer) - Quite Nice actually. Anyway, this guy is 50 years old and has NEVER sold a Car - he actually has EVERY Car he's ever owned including a '70 Mustang Convertible, '71 Lincoln Mark IV, '62 Cadillac Hearse, '46 Studebaker Pichup, '95 Lincoln Mark VIII, '84 Lotus Turbo Esprit, '03 Chevy Silverado Pickup, '04 Lotus Elise, '04 Boxster S, '05 Lexus 300(?). He's also had Company Cars for many years and these do get recycled.
He had just built a 25 Car Steel Building on his property to house them all (+ some Winter Storage for some Friends  )- Heat, A/C, Office, Full Bath, Lift, Ceiling Hoist, Grease Pit, even a Wash Stall.
This Building was only 6 mos. old when the Leak happened and he wanted the Spill cleaned up right (bit of an environmentalist), so he called one of those Clean-Up Companies (like ServiceMaster) and they insisted that the Spill be cleaned to EPA Standards - Motor Oil is categorized as a HazMat. Since he had essentially reported it, he had no choice, plus the fact that from the get-go he intended that someone other than he (Dealer, PCNA, or PAG) foot the Bill. That much Oil would likely cost at least $500 worth of KittyLitter anyway...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-12-2006, 03:52 PM
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RMS and intermediate shaft failure. Sigh. It's what make the Boxster the car I hate to love. :ah:
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01-12-2006, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBoyS
IIRC, the Dealers offer a 2-year, 24k mi. warranty on the new RMS.
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Does that include labor also??
If so, Porsche replaced a rear wheel bearing a while back, cant remeber the exact length of the warranty, but I beleive it was 2yr 50k miles on the bearing. I forgot to ask if this included labor, cause I think the bearing is howling again!
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01-12-2006, 07:31 PM
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My 2003 S has 15k too. No RMS failure though. Knockity knock..
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