08-11-2013, 09:01 AM
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I have Porsche Boxster 2.5 1998 and it has failed the emission test on to high Co. The car has been serviced including fuel filter, plugs, oil, air filter, oil filter and coil packs. In addition to this its had new Cats, new o2 senors and I have cleaned the Air flow mass sensor. There are no error codes coming up, have you any idea why the ecu is providing to much fuel so its pushing up the Co emissions? I have cleaned the air system and I have mixed the petrol with injector cleaner, could this cleaner affect the readings? Please can you help? I saw your post and have a similar problem but with the Co. In you search for you problem have you found anything similar to mine and if so can you help.
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I have never had an emissions level problem, just the CEL with P0430 code which seems to be a catalytic converter starting to fail. I have not come across a similar problem as yours, it might be a fuel injector issue or MAF sensor issue? Have you cleaned the Throttle Body? How is the idle and driving performance?
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11-07-2013, 04:46 PM
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OK, so I got a fourth mortgage and purchased the factory manifold catalytic converter for my car, I plan on installing it tomorrow. Any recommendations on removing the original bolts on the original catalytic converter would be greatly appreciated.
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11-07-2013, 05:40 PM
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OK, so I got a forth mortgage and purchased the factory manifold catalytic converter for my car, I plan on installing it tomorrow. Any recommendations on removing the original bolts on the original catalytic converter would be greatly appreciated.
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Ouch ! I had a set that came off the D-mobile with barely 18k miles on them - that I practically gave away ! Where were you ?
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11-07-2013, 06:08 PM
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Ouch ! I had a set that came off the D-mobile with barely 18k miles on them - that I practically gave away ! Where were you ?
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You should have held on to them until I needed them... What were you thinking??
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11-07-2013, 06:39 PM
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You should have held on to them until I needed them... What were you thinking??
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Not to make you feel any worse, but it would have been my pleasure to have given them to the Bard of the 986 forum.
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11-07-2013, 07:16 PM
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Not to make you feel any worse, but it would have been my pleasure to have given them to the Bard of the 986 forum.
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I am honored by your words and thoughts of generosity. You did not make me feel worse, you brightened my evening! Thank You.
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11-09-2013, 11:54 PM
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OK, so I got a forth mortgage and purchased the factory manifold catalytic converter for my car, I plan on installing it tomorrow. Any recommendations on removing the original bolts on the original catalytic converter would be greatly appreciated.
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Given your mileage, I wouldn't even dream of only replacing one side header/ cat.
Replace both cats and at least both pre-cat O2 sensors.
As to the bolts, while I have yet to have one shear off in a head, def take your time and use a quality penetrating oil like PB Blaster.
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11-10-2013, 07:56 AM
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Given your mileage, I wouldn't even dream of only replacing one side header/ cat.
Replace both cats and at least both pre-cat O2 sensors.
As to the bolts, while I have yet to have one shear off in a head, def take your time and use a quality penetrating oil like PB Blaster.
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All O2 sensors were replaced not too long ago.
Spending $4000 to replace both manifolds on a car that is worth not much more than that on trade-in is a little hard for me to justify. I'd rather spread the pain out over time, maybe replace the other side in four to six months. If I lived in another state no problem, there are many choices on after market catalytic converters at a fraction of the cost.
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Given your mileage, I wouldn't even dream of only replacing one side header/ cat.
Replace both cats and at least both pre-cat O2 sensors.
As to the bolts, while I have yet to have one shear off in a head, def take your time and use a quality penetrating oil like PB Blaster.
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Can I have your other Porsche sticker for my tool box
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Can I have your other Porsche sticker for my tool box
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It’s actually a magnet... Yes you can have one.
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02-03-2016, 06:30 AM
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Need help with the same problem
Hi guys,
I'm having the same exact symptoms as Jager with my 02 Bosxter base with 96,000Kmiles.
I have been getting a CEL every now and then for the past year, which I reset using my Durametric.
Problem is I'm due for smog inspection (California) and my renewal indicates that I must take the car to a STAR station. (those who live in CA know what that means.)
So, I reset the last CEL and took the car in. 15 minutes later the tech came to the waiting area and informed me that the OBD indicated that the car wasn't in "Ready" state to be tested. He asked if I had any repairs done, or had the battery disconnected? I said no!  I was told to drive the car for approximately 80 miles and take it back for another try.
After 90 miles of driving, I checked the Ready Status and only "Catalytic Convertor Efficiency" was still in Fail state.
After some research on the web, I came across a statement which said, in CA, on 2000 and later cars, with one out of 5 readiness monitors off, the station can proceed with testing the vehicle.
So I go beck to the smog station and they refused to test the car because of the one readiness monitor being in fail mode.
Since, I have driven the car for another 120 miles and the cat readiness monitor doesn't want to go into pass mode. BTW, no CEL either.
Based on the above, I have two key questions:
1) Will a failing cat prevent the respective readiness monitor from resetting?
2) Is it true that I should be able to get the car smogged with 1 of 5 monitors in fail sate?
As always, I would greatly appreciate any and all input.
TIA
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The Cats are designed to last forever basically and this would be true it they never became fouled by oil in the exhaust over a long period of time, excessive temperature (overly rich unburnt fuel getting into exhaust) or mechanical failure of the converter element (rock smashed Cat or Internal cement came apart causing cat element to loose its seal and allowing exhaust to bypass the element).
I had a Cat failure at 75K miles due to the cat element cement losing its seal.
You can hear the element sliding back in forth inside if you shake the removed cat.
I replaced it with a used one from ebay since Dismantler Businesses are not allowed to sell them used in CA. Works better than the other banks cat now and cost ~$250 vs the ~$1800 for a new one.
I used a scope through the front O2 sensor after my AOS failure a few years ago, figuring that I had oil fouled the cats but it looks fine.
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Based on the above, I have two key questions:
1) Will a failing cat prevent the respective readiness monitor from resetting?
2) Is it true that I should be able to get the car smogged with 1 of 5 monitors in fail sate?
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They keep changing the rules yearly. In 2015 they don't use the tailpipe sniffer on 2000 and newer cars and only rely on the computers diagnostic report so the CAT condition diagnostic would be mandatory so if THAT subsystem was not showing ready they can not pass your car.
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05-11-2015, 02:07 PM
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OK, so I got a fourth mortgage and purchased the factory manifold catalytic converter for my car, I plan on installing it tomorrow. Any recommendations on removing the original bolts on the original catalytic converter would be greatly appreciated.
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Why not peel off a set of these from a low mileage wrecker? I see them on Ebay now and then.
EDIT.
Did not see that this thread is from 27 B.C.
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