07-09-2013, 09:16 AM
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I rarely leave my top down. Usually only if I can see the car. As for the red clip, don't rely on it. On my 99, you can put your hand in the car, wave it around, and maybe about 10~15 seconds the alarm will sound. I've also had it sound in a mild wind when it detected the placard I had hanging from the mirror spin in the breeze. Go figure.
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07-09-2013, 09:14 PM
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Blake
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It depends on the neighborhood but I normally just roll my windows up and use the red clip I got from pelican parts. I think I paid like $5 for it and its a nice feature being able to enable the motion sensor
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07-10-2013, 03:35 AM
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I do not.
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07-10-2013, 11:19 AM
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In cars with manual frunk/trunk levers(mine), once you lock the car, the levers are locked until you unlock it.
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07-10-2013, 06:42 PM
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It is online how to open the front trunk of a later 986 (owners manual)
All you need to do s reach in the drivers footwell and pull off the fuse box cover .
I have not tried , but I reckon I could have my headlights out in less than a minute with my car locked and no key ....
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07-10-2013, 08:14 PM
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One further question before I start looking to purchase this "red clip" ...
What happens if you reach over the screen and simply pull it out ?
Does that render the alarm back to doors only ?
I'm thinking it may be easier and better to just wire in a switch in one of the spare spots in the horseshoe ....
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07-11-2013, 05:04 AM
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Once the car is locked, removing the red clip without first deactivating the immobilizer/alarm with the key would have the same effect as picking the door lock and opening the door, or opening the console lid - the alarm is activated.
Brad
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07-11-2013, 06:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by southernstar
Once the car is locked, removing the red clip without first deactivating the immobilizer/alarm with the key would have the same effect as picking the door lock and opening the door, or opening the console lid - the alarm is activated.
Brad
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Thanks brad .
That will be today's ebay purchase
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07-11-2013, 06:44 AM
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Frodo ,
No they are not held in with duct-tape .
They are held in with the tool you keep in the trunk waiting for them
here are the steps :
Jump in car
Pull off fuse box cover
Pull out positive clip and attach 12v and the hood pops
Jump out of car and open hood
Pull back carpets and remove rubber bungs
Insert headlight tool and do a quarter turn
Do another quarter turn on other headlight .
Viola !!!
Maybe my one minute estimate was a little low ?
Maybe ill grab a motorcycle battery and headlight tool and time myself ?
I figured it took me 30 seconds to pop my hood when the battery was flat and it takes me around 30 seconds to remove a headlight so in a rush both could be gone in a minute ....
Last edited by Ian c; 07-11-2013 at 07:19 AM.
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07-11-2013, 06:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian c
Thanks brad .
That will be today's ebay purchase 
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I just checked my local porsche dealer ...
I get it cheaper using them
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07-11-2013, 02:08 PM
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^ you mean the red clip gives you a false sense of confidence? Thanks for saving me $17
you should never leave the top down in a commercial area unless it's within eyesight. I once had a guy try to steal my car radio (not the Boxster) from a friend's drive way while were inside with the front door and windows wide open. The moron accidentally pushed the horn so we gave chase.
speaking of morons...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2310161/Teenage-carjacker-thwarted-didnt-know-use-stick-shift-stolen-Porsche.html
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Last edited by Perfectlap; 07-11-2013 at 02:18 PM.
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07-12-2013, 03:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfectlap
^ you mean the red clip gives you a false sense of confidence?
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Oh, a little, I guess. Probably foolishly. When I consider parking somewhere with the top down/windows up I ask myself this: Taking into account where I am, what time of day it is, how many people are in the area (generally the more the merrier), how long I'm planning on being gone (and how far away I'll be), along with any number of other factors (largely of the gut-feeling type), how likely is it that someone will climb up the back and into my car, very most likely setting off the motion sensor-triggered alarm?
Sometimes it just boils down to how lucky I'm feeling that day :dance:
Made a couple other observations on the Red Clip (False Sense of) Security System:
Went to the grocery store yesterday, leaving top down, windows up, locked. Got back with two bags of groceries and a 6-pack (  ). Reaching over the window on the passenger side, placed the 6-pack, then one bag, then the second bag onto the passenger seat. About the time the second bag hit the seat the alarm went off. So it's maybe not quite as ineffective as I had originally indicated. Like a sleeping PC, it seems to take a moment or two to "wake up", assess the situation, then decide to sound the alarm. I really can't imagine someone being able to physically scamper into the car to reach the fuse box to disable anything without setting it off, at least for a short burst. If there's anyone around, he's going to attract some attention, at least briefly. It's a system that's helpful but certainly not perfect.
Another interesting discovery: As before, I once again removed the red clip (with no car alarm response). BUT---as I waved about inside the car the alarm was tripped...with no red clip in place. So it seems that, once the car is "secured" it remains so until it's unlocked, whether the red clip remains in place or not.
And Coffin...I happen to agree with you. "Indict" really should be spelled "Indite". What were they thinking??
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07-12-2013, 02:40 PM
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I would look around only to gauge if there are any losers around. Don't ever rely on the public to intervene if they suspect a car theft or burglary. Mayyyybe they'll call the PO PO if its like REALLY obvious and said suspicious guy isn't physically imposing. If the guy looks huge they won't even make eye contact. Short of an an ex-military type or retired cop (or people in states with conceal/open carry) who just so happen to be there at that exact momment of a burglary, most people will "mind their own business" and move on while your Porsche is being ripped off.
The clip is a good idea. It's about the levels of inconvenience that a loser must have to deal with. Just like your home's front door, there are shockingly high numbers of people who never lock up a thing. And then they yell and scream about how they've been terribly violated and how the world is more unsafe today than it was yesterday.
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07-14-2013, 05:12 AM
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You mean the top goes up, how do I do that, is there tech article on this
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07-14-2013, 06:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kashmir
You mean the top goes up, how do I do that, is there tech article on this 
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No crooks in Tejas??
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07-14-2013, 08:02 AM
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Mobile Porsche Surgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
No crooks in Tejas??
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Never put my top up, never had a problem knock on wood, do set the alarm though.
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