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Old 12-09-2006, 09:04 PM   #1
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Boggtown - slippage is exactly as it sounds - slippage. Your RPMs rise, but your acceleration doesn't, cause your clutch is no longer catching. Gets worse as it goes on, until you can have the clutch completely engaged, and you go nowhere. Hope this helps - Anyone care to give a better description?

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Old 12-09-2006, 10:27 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by PorscheDoc) We just replaced a 98 996 clutch with 40k miles on it, with a guy that drives the car very very hard. Clutch disc was fine, but he bent the pressure plate, so it was not releasing properly.[/QUOTE

Hey Doc,
I've got 37k on mine (35K by po) and it has a slight shudder from rest in first, most times, not always, and I've always thought(from past experience) !*&#!*, pressure plate or flywheel, but dealer tech said don't worry about it. Any opinions ? Kinda bugs me.
Mine does the same thing, always periodic but frequent. It is actually the Dual Mass Flywheel. Stupid dealer didn't inform me of this until AFTER I had already replaced the clutch so I just left it. It chatters on take off and I get a vibration at 3-4k RPMs. According to the dealer it’s nothing that’s serious just annoying. I'll have it fixed next time I have the clutch changed.

My original clutch was actually never really worn out but I had them replace it while performing the RMS repair. Car had 27K miles, now at 49K.
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Old 12-10-2006, 07:21 AM   #3
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Many factors are involved with clutch life. We replaced a customers clutch on his VW Eurovan at just shy of 900,000 km's.... all highway miles and we have serviced the vehicle since new. On the other hand we replaced a customers clutch after only one week of use, it turns out he was starting out in 3rd gear all the time in his VW Golf.

There is no said rule of thumb when it comes to clutch life.... when it starts togo south just replace it.
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:01 AM   #4
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I don't want any bad blood with anyone, if you say the clutch lasted 250K I'm ok with that. My dad had a car dealership for 40 years, most of what we sold was standard shift. The longest I ever saw anyone get from one clutch of combined highway and city driving was 87,000.

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I went 115k personally on my Acura Integra GS-R and the clutch was more than solid. I would have no problem believing that if I continued to own that car it could have gone 150k with the original clutch. My first car though... The clutch only lasted 55k, and only the last 10k were mine. Abuse = dead clutch. Good driver = long life clutch.
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Old 01-04-2006, 05:30 AM   #5
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I think the variation on clutch life is HUGE!

I once had a 911 that service told me had a new clutch at 13K. When I asked about it, the service tech simply shrugged his shoulders and said, "Hey, some go 100K, some go right in the toilet!"

Depends on the driver I think.

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For those who don't believe a clutch can go a long long time you may not be aware that you can learn to change gears upshifting on a manual without using the clutch at all. Maybe that is an old timer trick that just isn't picked up by the younger crowd these days.

You need to learn the right engine speed to make the switch. Once you get that down you can be incredibly smooth with your shifts even when you do use the clutch which will result in very little wear.

Here are my personal experiences and the mileage on the original clutch before I got rid of the cars:

1984 MBZ 190E 232,000 miles
1985 VW GTI 203,000

As with most things in life, your mileage may vary.
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:35 PM   #7
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My theory is clutch life is inversely proportional to the number of traffic jams encountered. And left leg strength is directly proportional to same...

Never replaced a clutch yet, all my cars have gone over 100K even with spirited driving. In my high school set, it was a point of religion to keep your foot off the clutch and hand off the knob when not shifting... people would call you on it. I think that discipline helps with long clutch and tranny life.
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For those who don't believe a clutch can go a long long time you may not be aware that you can learn to change gears upshifting on a manual without using the clutch at all. Maybe that is an old timer trick that just isn't picked up by the younger crowd these days.

You need to learn the right engine speed to make the switch. Once you get that down you can be incredibly smooth with your shifts even when you do use the clutch which will result in very little wear.

Here are my personal experiences and the mileage on the original clutch before I got rid of the cars:

1984 MBZ 190E 232,000 miles
1985 VW GTI 203,000

As with most things in life, your mileage may vary.
I use to do that in my Eclipse GST, It had bad crankwalk so the pressure plate sometimes touched the clutch disc, making it hard to shift sometimes, so i learned how to shift without the clutch, it was pretty easy, just get the vehicle speed to match the correct RPM's for the rite gear and it just slips in there quite nicely without grinding.
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94 Honda Accord. 5speed. 205,000. Clutch still works. Never replaced. Hmmmmm
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Clutch replacement

I have been driving for over 50 years.I have owned approximately 50 cars and have never replaced a clutch. Like many of my peers, I have always shifted into neutral and released the clutch at stop lights. I believe that and not "speed shifting" is the reason for longer clutch life.
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I think the variation on clutch life is HUGE!

I once had a 911 that service told me had a new clutch at 13K. When I asked about it, the service tech simply shrugged his shoulders and said, "Hey, some go 100K, some go right in the toilet!"

Depends on the driver I think.

On 911s it also depends on the year of the clutch design.
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:01 PM   #12
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At a Porsche Parade tech Session I asked Porsche's North American VP of Service how long a Boxster clutch should last. He stated that it was designed to have the same service life as a 944 clutch.
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Randall,

I don't want any bad blood with anyone, if you say the clutch lasted 250K I'm ok with that. My dad had a car dealership for 40 years, most of what we sold was standard shift. The longest I ever saw anyone get from one clutch of combined highway and city driving was 87,000.

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My dad bought an MR2 Turbo in March of 1990 and drive it for 360,000 miles in about 10 years without replacing the clutch.

If all you do is drive it on the highway, a clutch can last a VERY long time.
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