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Porsche Chick · 02-20-2013, 07:51 PM

JAAY

Have you actually driven BRZ or FRS? It's a drift car. I thought it would be fun, but drifting at 40 mph due to inadequate wheels, is not fun. At least not for me. But if you like it, more power to you.

Teleski; I too loved my Celicas, especially the 1990. When I heard the FRS was coming out, I spent time waiting for it, but when it came right down to it, it's just not the same animal.

stephen wilson · 02-21-2013, 04:21 AM

Yeah, one of the first upgrades to the BRZ should be a wider wheel & tire combo.

JAAY · 02-21-2013, 04:29 AM

I couldn't agree with all you more. The truth is the car actually handles pretty close to a stock base boxster. I do not want to get into the drifting scene. Info that I have dug up says that you can fit a 225-235 up front a and 10" wheel with 275's in the rear. Remember I am looking at getting a V6 Genesis not the subaru engine or the 4cyl turbo frs or genesis.

99 2.5 986
0-60 mph, sec - 6.0
Quarter mile, sec/mph - 14.5/94.6122
Lateral acceleration, - g0.94
600-ft slalom, mph - 67.7 25/29
Skidpad - .94

2013 Genesis 3.8
Quarter mile - 13.9/102mph
0-60mph - 5.2sec.
Skidpad - .94

Perfectlap · 02-21-2013, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JAAY

I couldn't agree with all you more. The truth is the car actually handles pretty close to a stock base boxster. I do not want to get into the drifting scene. Info that I have dug up says that you can fit a 225-235 up front a and 10" wheel with 275's in the rear.

That sounds it would definitely need light wheels. Heavy anchors could easily ruin that car.

The FRS was not strictly marketed or designed to be a drift car. Obviously drifting is huge in Japan and the left coast so it had to be accessible to that camp otherwise they'd be leaving sales on the table unecessarily.
But if Toyota were looking to make a budget car squarely for drifting it would have been a very different outcome. The world's 2nd biggest car make can figure that out quiet easily and sell it for a steal. The FRS was more of a driver's exercise with an engine that allows you to use all of the power all of the time vs. so many other sports cars where you only use a fraction of the available power for fear of ending up in the trees. For a race junkie that aspect has the same appeal as the Miata which is a fixture at every track day and autocross... and those drivers are typically not drifters.

It's going to be the new car for the Toyota Long Beach Celebrity crash fest. I might actually watch it this year.

JAAY · 02-21-2013, 08:16 AM

I would have mine looking like this but probably in white or any other color than black. My 986 is black and it is the third black car I've owned. It is a pain in the ass but looks insane when it is cleaned

ProjectM96 · 02-21-2013, 08:26 AM

I raced a BRZ today in my 986. He kept up with me from 0-30mph. In the end, I won by a few car lengths. Maybe it was an automatic.

JAAY · 02-21-2013, 09:22 AM

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I raced a BRZ today in my 986. He kept up with me from 0-30mph. In the end, I won by a few car lengths. Maybe it was an automatic.

If it was that close, please drop your car by me for a few weeks with your credit card. I can fix that 986 your driving

Perfectlap · 02-21-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JAAY

I would have mine looking like this but probably in white or any other color than black. My 986 is black and it is the third black car I've owned. It is a pain in the ass but looks insane when it is cleaned

everyone owns a black car once. 3? you are committed.

p.s.

I heard the BRZ engines are not holding up for track use, everything is overheating. And even with spendy track mods they are not all that quick (Sebring 2:40's).... you're out enough cash ($35K+$25K) to have bought the 987 Cayman S or 996 Turbo with the GT1 in the first place.. Boxster Spyders (practically track ready) are now creeping into the 50's. Get an FRS, pound it. toss it. Put the cash you saved into beaten-down Apple stock.

Porsche Chick · 02-22-2013, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I heard the BRZ engines are not holding up for track use, everything is overheating. And even with spendy track mods they are not all that quick (Sebring 2:40's).... you're out enough cash ($35K+$25K) to have bought the 987 Cayman S or 996 Turbo with the GT1 in the first place.. Boxster Spyders (practically track ready) are now creeping into the 50's. Get an FRS, pound it. toss it. Put the cash you saved into beaten-down Apple stock.

For that money, but a used Carrera or new Boxster. Or even a Spyder with that tedious snap-on roof. A used Carrera will blow the doors off a BRZ, NO question. Hubby has one and they are phenomenal.

Sunsport · 02-21-2013, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche Chick

I too loved my Celicas, especially the 1990. When I heard the FRS was coming out, I spent time waiting for it, but when it came right down to it, it's just not the same animal.

I loved the 90-93 Celica as well! I had a few GT, GT-S and All-Trac models over the years. To this day the 90 All-Trac I had is the one and only car I regret selling. The build quality in and out was superb and the 3S-GTE engine was bullet proof as well as very tunable.

None of the Toyotas over the past decade or so are the same animal as those older cars. When the 7th gen came out in 2000 I couldn't wait to get a GT-S. When I bought it I was never more disappointed - a tin can on the outside and plastic container on the inside. I don't think I ever sold a car so fast.