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Old 02-21-2013, 09:06 AM   #41
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Screw comparrisons with other cars. Do you like the FRS? Buy it.

I have not had an opportunity to drive either the BRZ or FRS yet. What I can say is that I came up on a new one on the freeway in Atlanta last summer and had a "what is that?" moment. The car looked great and certainly peaked my interest.

My son drove one a few weeks ago and loved it. He's got an SAE background and experience driving lots of fun cars (including my Boxster S). He has been on me since to drive one. At $26k, it's a lot less than some new cars I would never have an interest in.

Only downside is it doesn't have an IMS or RMS....what you gonna talk about on the forums?

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Old 02-21-2013, 09:22 AM   #42
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I raced a BRZ today in my 986. He kept up with me from 0-30mph. In the end, I won by a few car lengths. Maybe it was an automatic.
If it was that close, please drop your car by me for a few weeks with your credit card. I can fix that 986 your driving
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:15 PM   #43
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I would have mine looking like this but probably in white or any other color than black. My 986 is black and it is the third black car I've owned. It is a pain in the ass but looks insane when it is cleaned
everyone owns a black car once. 3? you are committed.


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I heard the BRZ engines are not holding up for track use, everything is overheating. And even with spendy track mods they are not all that quick (Sebring 2:40's).... you're out enough cash ($35K+$25K) to have bought the 987 Cayman S or 996 Turbo with the GT1 in the first place.. Boxster Spyders (practically track ready) are now creeping into the 50's. Get an FRS, pound it. toss it. Put the cash you saved into beaten-down Apple stock.
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Old 02-22-2013, 05:08 AM   #44
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I heard the BRZ engines are not holding up for track use, everything is overheating. And even with spendy track mods they are not all that quick (Sebring 2:40's).... you're out enough cash ($35K+$25K) to have bought the 987 Cayman S or 996 Turbo with the GT1 in the first place.. Boxster Spyders (practically track ready) are now creeping into the 50's. Get an FRS, pound it. toss it. Put the cash you saved into beaten-down Apple stock.
For that money, but a used Carrera or new Boxster. Or even a Spyder with that tedious snap-on roof. A used Carrera will blow the doors off a BRZ, NO question. Hubby has one and they are phenomenal.
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unfortunately water-cooled Carreras are expensive to fix and maintain if you're serious about track days there are much beter values if you're looking for a track toy. Namely some of the newer Corvettes which are finally durable (engine wise) for that type of use. They share much of their braking with Ferrari's suppliers. The new Stingray comes in at half the price of the latest Carrera GT3 and on similar tires will destroy a $120K 991 S. Actually the current top of the heap Corvette is beating the most limited and fastest $270K GT3 and GT2's by ~3 seconds at the N-ring (ouch...and on VW's home field -- double ouch). For real world budgets $30K in track mods will go light years further on a Corvette than it will on a GT3 (and you're still slower than the GM). And let's not even get into the warranty BS that Porsche is pulling on folks who are dropping $130-$150K on track ready 997 GT3's. "Your rear center lock wheel flew off midlap? Go pound sand we never sanctioned track use...."
Durability seems to be the only advantage Porsche has and it should since you're certainly paying through the nose for it.

I'd say for a tiny budget the FRS is hard to beat as a driver's car. For a bigger budget in the $60K - $90K neighbohrhood the new Stingray (costing nowhere near $90K) is going to be impossible to beat at the track/ax.

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