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Johnny Danger 05-02-2012 04:39 PM

Wax Recommendation ?
 
I need a recommendation for a no-frills, off the shelf wax for the D-mobile . No need for any fancy polishes, clay bar or esoteric boutique stuff. The finish is pristine, I just need a good all around wax that I can find at the usual local haunts . Meguiars, Mothers' or others ?

Kenny Boxster 05-02-2012 04:45 PM

Johnny,

I use Meguiar's caranuba gold class wax on my black boxster. It makes it shine like a mirror! I use the paste wax, but cannot vouch for liquid waxes. I am sure mothers is the exact same all in all when it comes to paste waxes, but I used meguairs as I like their in-car cleaning products. It is a no frills wax, but does a damn good job for $10. I have heard zymol is an amazing wax but I am unfamiliar with putting a cleaner wax:confused: on my car.

Ghostrider 310 05-02-2012 04:47 PM

If you're going "the three stooges" or auto zone route, my favorite is mothers pure carnuba. Get the liquid, the solid smells better but it always cracks near the end and wastes product. If you have marks or residual dirt the cleaner wax is a nice product too. I have the Meguire's carnuba gold right now the mothers and Blackfire, I'm telling you take the five minutes and order blackfire products off the web, the best bar none.

Jager 05-02-2012 05:09 PM

Do you trust the Jäger? If your 986 has a clean surface then all you need is Meguiar’s Mirror Glaze #7. The Professional Show Car Glaze, Pure Polish For A Deep Gloss Shine.

JAAY 05-02-2012 05:12 PM

NXT wax. easy on, easy off. Even in the sun. I use griots stuff when I really do up my car. The NXT is great though

MeguiarsDirect.com: NXT Generation® Tech Wax® 2.0

Johnny Danger 05-02-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager (Post 288778)
Do you trust the Jäger? If your 986 has a clean surface then all you need is Meguiar’s Mirror Glaze #7. The Professional Show Car Glaze, Pure Polish For A Deep Gloss Shine.

If the finish on the D-mobile is flawless, do I want to use a polish or a glaze on it ? I thought that a simple wax would be the best choice .

Jager 05-02-2012 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 288780)
If the finish on the D-mobile is flawless, do I want to use a polish or a glaze on it ? I thought that a simple wax would be the best choice .

Meguiar’s Mirror Glaze #7 won't do anything but coat the surface... Some polishes have abrasives. #7 is very easy to work with, unlike waxes, give it a try. Use microfiber cloth to apply and rub off.

Jager 05-02-2012 05:49 PM

I will add that you need to apply Meguiar’s Mirror Glaze #7 in small sections of the vehicle at a time, don't let the glaze dry completely before wiping it off.

Johnny Danger 05-02-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jager (Post 288787)
I will add that you need to apply Meguiar’s Mirror Glaze #7 in small sections of the vehicle at a time, don't let the glaze dry completely before wiping it off.

I guess I need a crash course in detailing 101 . What are the differences and advantages between using either a glaze, wax, polish or sealant ?

Jager 05-02-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 288788)
I guess I need a crash course in detailing 101 . What are the differences and advantages between using either a glaze, wax, polish or sealant ?

How many years do you want to research? It's a crazy world of car finishes out there! You will find any different definitions by the vendors and allot of claims.

If you are looking for, or set on, a wax product I like Nu Finish because it's one of the easiest to wipe off and gives good protection for many weeks.

copsahl 05-02-2012 06:40 PM

+1 on NXT, especially on a finish that has no swirls.

blue2000s 05-02-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 288788)
I guess I need a crash course in detailing 101 . What are the differences and advantages between using either a glaze, wax, polish or sealant ?

Autogeek.net is an awesome resouce.

Auto Detailing Facts, auto detailing Tips, How to detailing Guides, how to polish, how to wax, DIY detailing, do it yourself guides

http://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html

san rensho 05-02-2012 06:54 PM

NXT paste, not liquid, is pretty long lasting. Mirror glaze is also very good. Both give a very rich "wet" look.

But Johnny, you have an unlimited purse. Get the best, Swiss Vax, only $1500 for a can!

Swissvax USA: Crystal Rock - Paul Dalton's state-of-the-art Carnauba-Glaze, 200ml

onefastman 05-02-2012 07:08 PM

I prefer a sealant over a wax.

Lasts longer with almost identical effects.

DFW02S 05-02-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefastman (Post 288801)
I prefer a sealant over a wax.

Lasts longer with almost identical effects.

And aren't most sealants better at hiding imperfections?

Never mind, the OP said pristine finish.

thstone 05-02-2012 08:26 PM

Seriously? I see a post from Johnny about "wax recommendations" and its REALLY about car wax?

Kenny Boxster 05-02-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 288816)
Seriously? I see a post from Johnny about "wax recommendations" and its REALLY about car wax?


:D You know you've been under the influence of Johnny when you you're thinking of bikini waxes instead of car waxes when you're on a car forum.

Johnny Danger 05-03-2012 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by san rensho (Post 288799)
NXT paste, not liquid, is pretty long lasting. Mirror glaze is also very good. Both give a very rich "wet" look.

But Johnny, you have an unlimited purse. Get the best, Swiss Vax, only $1500 for a can!

Swissvax USA: Crystal Rock - Paul Dalton's state-of-the-art Carnauba-Glaze, 200ml

I have four cans of the stuff, it sucks !

Johnny Danger 05-03-2012 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 288816)
Seriously? I see a post from Johnny about "wax recommendations" and its REALLY about car wax?

Of course I'm serious, we're talking about the D-mobile here !

pompous 05-03-2012 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAAY (Post 288779)
NXT wax. easy on, easy off. Even in the sun. I use griots stuff when I really do up my car. The NXT is great though

MeguiarsDirect.com: NXT Generation® Tech Wax® 2.0

X2 This is what I use as well.

Auf los! 05-03-2012 03:48 AM

Zymol is NOT a "cleaning wax"
 
Kenny, I need to correct a misapprehension of yours. While Zymol has made a "cleaner wax" (for marketing to people looking for a quick one-step solution) they are clearly labeled that. Traditional Zymol waxes (like Glasur, made specifically for Porsche finishes) contain NO abrasives, and are not cleaner waxes.

Johnny, it is important to understand that most paste waxes (Turtle Wax, Simonize, etc.) do contain a small amount of abrasives, and because it is only a small amount, they don't work very well and can leave swirl marks. I prefer to separate the processes depending upon what my finish needs. My full routine in early Spring starts with using dish detergent to remove any old wax (and this is the ONLY time I use dish detergent!), clay-barring to remove embedded contaminants, and a polish like Safe-Cut to create the smoothest possible surface. I will then apply a wax-only product like Zymol Glasur.

While Zymol applied to a smooth surface will last for months, I enjoy waxing my car, so I will re-apply Zymol every 4--6 weeks during the summer.

If you really only want something quick and easy, I can recommend a synthetic like Turtle Wax's "Ice" product. I have torture-tested this on my wife's car (which I DON'T enjoy waxing), and the top of an air-conditioning compressor outside my house. It's easy to apply and buff off, and will bead water for a year or more.

Johnny Danger 05-03-2012 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auf los! (Post 288841)
Kenny, I need to correct a misapprehension of yours. While Zymol has made a "cleaner wax" (for marketing to people looking for a quick one-step solution) they are clearly labeled that. Traditional Zymol waxes (like Glasur, made specifically for Porsche finishes) contain NO abrasives, and are not cleaner waxes.

Johnny, it is important to understand that most paste waxes (Turtle Wax, Simonize, etc.) do contain a small amount of abrasives, and because it is only a small amount, they don't work very well and can leave swirl marks. I prefer to separate the processes depending upon what my finish needs. My full routine in early Spring starts with using dish detergent to remove any old wax (and this is the ONLY time I use dish detergent!), clay-barring to remove embedded contaminants, and a polish like Safe-Cut to create the smoothest possible surface. I will then apply a wax-only product like Zymol Glasur.

While Zymol applied to a smooth surface will last for months, I enjoy waxing my car, so I will re-apply Zymol every 4--6 weeks during the summer.

If you really only want something quick and easy, I can recommend a synthetic like Turtle Wax's "Ice" product. I have torture-tested this on my wife's car (which I DON'T enjoy waxing), and the top of an air-conditioning compressor outside my house. It's easy to apply and buff off, and will bead water for a year or more.

It's not that I'm looking for something that's easy to use, but rather I'm looking for the product that's right for my situation . My vehicle is free of road deposits and debris, as well as surface scratches or lines . With that said, it doesn't seem like I need a cleaner wax, polish or clay bar . In fact, I should probably stay away from those types of products and use only a wax, sealant or glaze . Sound right ?

Ghostrider 310 05-03-2012 04:55 AM

Not in my opinion, the clay bar is a good call after a couple years of road use, you will be amazed at what it removes and it does not harm the clear coat. Do you have a porter cable or are you going "danielson" on it? I've seen the pics you keep it tidy a carnuba wax is a great call for protection and shine. I like the blackfire because it has micro abrasives safe for CC that break down as you polish, the two step with PC is the ultimate shine bar none.

papasmurf 05-03-2012 08:40 AM

I am fond of 3M performance finish...
 
it is a paint sealant so it lasts a long time...typically a few months. Traditional carnauba based waxes do provide a lot of shine but are quickly consumed by UV exposure so the effect may be only a few days to a week or so. The 3m product does not dry/haze like most waxes do which makes it really easy to apply to the entire vehicle before coming back and wiping it off. I have applied P21S over the 3m product as well for maximum bling but it really is not necessary.

Ghostrider 310 05-03-2012 08:44 AM

Says 4-6 months don't know about that for the number of washes we do, especially given out oil spitting powerplants.

Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection - 16 oz | Detailed Image

jdiba 05-03-2012 08:57 AM

When it comes to the D-Mobile, JD is very serious.

Ghostrider 310 05-03-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdiba (Post 288885)
When it comes to the D-Mobile, JD is very serious.

If that's factual then he needs to pony up for a porter cable because the human hand cannot match it for results.

Johnny Danger 05-03-2012 10:35 AM

I spent late morning/early afternoon giving the D-mobile a detailing. I picked up some Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus liquid wax. It was easy enough to use (simple on/off), and it left a pretty nice shine . Honestly, though, I think a lot of these auto detailing products are more about packaging and marketing than anything else . I wouldn't rate this wax as being any better than a traditional jar of Turtle Wax . In the future I'd like to try some Meguiar's #7 glaze and see how well it does .

Ghostrider 310 05-03-2012 11:24 AM

I used to be prep at the dealership all the way back to when Garry's royal satin was about the best stuff we could get. The meguires is eh, Ford wax. It's really about the PC and stacking different products for maximum effect.

Perfectlap 05-03-2012 11:47 AM

NXT I'm not sure I would use on a beater. That's a good OTC wax for a somewhat looked after paint finish. I've used better synthetic waxes as far as last forever durability. FinishKare 1000P high temp wax and their Pink Wax comes to mind. The 1000P in particular will have the car beading through a nukular war.
Which is ironic because for the low price they send you a 1 pound tin can of the stuff.

I would claybar the car first. Any OTC clay bar will work, I used to see a generic brand at Strauss Auto or maybe it was Autozone or Pepboys...I forget. Same crap.
Use the claybar while you are washing the c ar. This isn't concours afterall. Do a sudsy once over after claying to clear away any crap and rinse thouroughly.
Spray down the surface with quick detailer. Apply the wax to the damp surface.
let it haze. Spray the surface again. Then using speed not pressure, buff clean.
I use FinishKare 425 anti-static spray which gives it a teflon finish for dust to roll off. Essential product for dark colored cars. Autogeek.net has most of this stuff.

P.s.
Sealants are nonsense. A durable synthetic wax wil last months. Particularly on an enthusiasts car that is often topped off with a spray wax quick detailer. Sealants are just a product sold by car wax companies to get you to buy 8 step kits. Total nonsense. All you need is claybar and synthetic wax if you've got a beater car.

papasmurf 05-03-2012 11:54 AM

IME sealants are synthetic
 
wax and I use the term somewhat interchangeably. The 3m I recommended is considered a paint sealant rather than a traditional organic wax that will quickly degrade in the sun. The materials in it are synthetic and it is a one step process. I alot of times do clay bar the car and use a mild polish with my PC buffer before applying it though.

jaykay 05-03-2012 11:54 AM

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Blitz is our most durable paste wax. It does not leave residue and is great on dark colors. When used as directed, Blitz Wax produces a deep, durable, clear finish which preserves and protects against all harmful elements.

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Perfectlap 05-03-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 288904)
I spent late morning/early afternoon giving the D-mobile a detailing. I picked up some Meguiar's Gold Class Carnauba Plus liquid wax. It was easy enough to use (simple on/off), and it left a pretty nice shine . Honestly, though, I think a lot of these auto detailing products are more about packaging and marketing than anything else . I wouldn't rate this wax as being any better than a traditional jar of Turtle Wax . In the future I'd like to try some Meguiar's #7 glaze and see how well it does .

If you want a high end shine try this stuff. I hav zero allegiance to brands but their Prime and Acrylic Jet Trigger is a solid product 1-2 that must have a very high concentration of carnauba wax, which you get very little of with auto store stuff.
The Prime polish itself could be left on the car as is with enough shine to call it day. Really brings out silver.

WERKSTAT: advancing the technology of automotive detailing

Johnny Danger 05-03-2012 11:58 AM

Holy motherella ! After looking at Finish Kare's web-site, I'd need a 12 step program in order to complete their 8 step process ! The hell with it, I'm going back to Rally Wax !




Additional Waxes offered by Finish Kare Mold Release

Perfectlap 05-03-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 288923)
Holy motherella ! After looking at Finish Kare's web-site, I'd need a 12 step program in order to complete their 8 step process ! The hell with it, I'm going back to Rally Wax !




Additional Waxes offered by Finish Kare Mold Release

LOL.
I think they sell from the site you posted to car dealerships and the marine industry.

For weekend warriors you should use a retail distributor. The paint decontamination kit is popular. The product gets in to clear coat swirl channels to drive out pollutants that the clay bar might miss. All that stuff that causes the paint to dull or for rust to start up. It's like DEEP cleaning for the paint.

http://autogeek.commerce-search.net/search/Brand-Finish_Kare--catalog-autogeek--keywords-finish_kare

ekam 05-03-2012 04:19 PM

Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax (No. 845).

Most durable wax out there available....

WhipE350 05-03-2012 05:17 PM

Johnny don't you know it's not the wax...it is who applies it!

Jager 05-03-2012 06:08 PM

Wax On, Wax Off
 
Wax On, Wax Off:

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thstone 05-03-2012 06:58 PM

Thank you! Its about friggin" time! :D

san rensho 05-04-2012 03:50 AM

Don't forget to wash the windows, too. 3:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kliy32YWFcU


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