99 vs 00 and their Values

[NoGaBiker]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Interesting, for a 911 GT3 a green exterior rather than hurting you can get you some extra $$$.

This Viper Green Boxster "RS" has been for sale forever. Aside from the horrific deviated seats and the RS side stripe, I think it's pretty cool. Not saying I'd buy it, but it's neat to see. I bet you could offer to swap somebody who has a late-model black car with all black interior for these black/tan seats and wind up with a full black interior, which would be such an improvement!

I'm also not big on "bringing the green inside," in the form of the vent rings and the shift pattern, but that's not a biggie either.

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[Ghostrider 310]

You're right that car has been sitting a long while, I don't get the show winner appeal or especially the RS badge. What is RS about it? It's all cosmetics that boast of something greater but come up short. It's like that Cayman that Manthey built, the article says he put 20K in it. He claims 315 hp for the intake mods but at 20K more why not buy a Cayman R, get the performance cheaper and skip the Manthey hood badge?

[Propes]

The Green Boxster was at the Mille 2011. I was not crazy about it in any of the pictures I have seen but in person it is gorgeous. It was parked next to a white Spyder and I was having a hard time deciding which I liked best (I think I decided on the Spyder). I agree it would be a lot better with a Black interior but I think the owner was going for something that was unique. It is a beautiful car but unfortunately the market is not there to get what he wants out of it with the new Boxster around the corner. It is a beautiful car and I wish him luck in selling it.

[Perfectlap]

Fugliest Boxster I've seen yet.

Green exterior with a tan and black interior? Huh???

I don't know I think maybe the green thing only works (quiet well) with Carreras.

Originally Posted by NoGaBiker

This Viper Green Boxster "RS" has been for sale forever. Aside from the horrific deviated seats and the RS side stripe, I think it's pretty cool. Not saying I'd buy it, but it's neat to see. I bet you could offer to swap somebody who has a late-model black car with all black interior for these black/tan seats and wind up with a full black interior, which would be such an improvement!

I'm also not big on "bringing the green inside," in the form of the vent rings and the shift pattern, but that's not a biggie either.

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[speaklow]

Why, oh why did I drive an 03 Boxster S with 25k miles??? Yellow, Litronic, heated seats...and that wail when you're accelerating onto C-470!!!...They're asking $22,995 Which more than doubles my budget...now I just have to try and justify it to myself!

[amschnellsten]

Just keep an eye out for one in good shape. Also if you are willing to do some repairs yourself sometimes it is worth picking up one that needs attention for far less. I picked up my 00 2.7 for $5500 he was asking $10500. I needed to change the motor mount, door spring, buff the headlights and I need to change the top (torn) I was able to find a complete black glass top with frame for $350. I still have not made it to $6k with my repairs. Keep looking there are tons out there.

When you look at a car from a private seller here is a little advice, be prepared to spend some time. Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal. Spend the next half hour looking over the car and do not look very excited and find every problem you can and commenting on it without putting your new friend down. Finally ask the person what the asking price is and how much interest there is in the car. After all this let the seller know how much you have always wanted one and let out that the economy is bad and it has taken a real toll. Then lowball the hell out of him. See is he comes down at all and maybe come up just a hair. If he does not take the offer leave your number and let him know that you need to check your finances. Tell him that you want the car(if you do) and walk away!! Wait a couple of days and call the seller back. Spend about another 15 minutes catching up with your new friend and then discuss price. This method works 95% of the time. I have been using this method for years and used it last week. I purchased an 04 Discovery for $2700 when the asking was $6200

[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by amschnellsten

After all this let the seller know how much you have always wanted one and let out that the economy is bad and it has taken a real toll. Then lowball the hell out of him.

i'm all for getting the best deal you can, so i don't know how i'd classify this, but if i were selling my boxster and the guy said the economy "took a toll", and intimated he did not really have the money to buy one, and then tried to "lowball the hell out of" me, i'd quickly inform him that this probably isn't the car for him and ask him to leave.

[pothole]

Originally Posted by tonycarreon

i'm all for getting the best deal you can, so i don't know how i'd classify this, but if i were selling my boxster and the guy said the economy "took a toll", and intimated he did not really have the money to buy one, and then tried to "lowball the hell out of" me, i'd quickly inform him that this probably isn't the car for him and ask him to leave.

Me too. I can't believe that kind of crap would work on anyone.

The only tactic that might work on me is a simple and immediate cash offer - ie, I have this cash on me right now, take it or leave it. In that situation - ie a real cash offer right in front of you, you have to weigh up the pros and cons of sitting on the car and whether you're likely to get a better offer or not. Any kind of spiel or patter would likely get my spidey sense twitching and make me less likely to deal.

[milliemax]

WHOOAAA !!!! Amschnellsten, Focus on my wife,me and my animals?, find every problem?, talk about the economy?, LOW BALL ? ,. Your strategy on buying a Porsche is all class-----3rd class. I would not let you any where near my home much less my family . Go buy a used car off a buy here/pay here lot. MAX

[speaklow]

I could never pull that off...Part of the funding for this new venture came from selling my Mercedes 300CE that I had for 6 years and spent lots of TLC (and money!) only to have potential buyers nitpick over miniscule rock chips and try to lowball me on this pristine car...left a bad taste in my mouth...now...if it was a cheesy salesman on a lot asking me 'What can I do to get you into this car today, son'...THAT would be a different story!!!

[amschnellsten]

Originally Posted by milliemax

WHOOAAA !!!! Amschnellsten, Focus on my wife,me and my animals?, find every problem?, talk about the economy?, LOW BALL ? ,. Your strategy on buying a Porsche is all class-----3rd class. I would not let you any where near my home much less my family . Go buy a used car off a buy here/pay here lot. MAX

Max, just some advice that does work very well. If you think buying tactics and trying to bargain are 3rd class you are a sellers dream. If you would think about my tactics a little more you would also realize that you will get more information about the vehicle you are trying to purchase. For instance if the guy tells you that he is not married and picks up hookers every weekend you can bet that the interior should be inspected with a black light. If my tactics are not for you don't use them but telling me that I should go buy a car off a buy here/ pay here because I am 3rd class is rather petty and ignorant. If it makes you feel like you are a first class citizen by not bargaining, by not inspecting the vehicle for problems and commenting on them, by not finding out about the seller and their habits (relate how they treat the vehicle), and not trying to make friends, I am happy that I am a 3rd class citizen.

I have used this tactic on every car I have purchased in the last ten years and I go through a lot of cars. Besides the Boxster last year I picked up these little fellas and paid less for the two than most people ask for one rusty 356. Both are rust free arizona cars................ it's great to be 3rd class!

[milliemax]

Originally Posted by milliemax

WHOOAAA !!!! Amschnellsten, Focus on my wife,me and my animals?, find every problem?, talk about the economy?, LOW BALL ? ,. Your strategy on buying a Porsche is all class-----3rd class. I would not let you any where near my home much less my family . Go buy a used car off a buy here/pay here lot. MAX

OK Amschnellsten, I said "Your strategy" is 3rd class. But anyway, YOU ARE FIRED ! You will be escorted out without pay. Like I said "I would not let you anywhere near my home , family or business. Grow up and go back to school. MR. Max to you.

[John99Boxster]

Originally Posted by amschnellsten

Just keep an eye out for one in good shape. Also if you are willing to do some repairs yourself sometimes it is worth picking up one that needs attention for far less. I picked up my 00 2.7 for $5500 he was asking $10500. I needed to change the motor mount, door spring, buff the headlights and I need to change the top (torn) I was able to find a complete black glass top with frame for $350. I still have not made it to $6k with my repairs. Keep looking there are tons out there.

When you look at a car from a private seller here is a little advice, be prepared to spend some time. Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal. Spend the next half hour looking over the car and do not look very excited and find every problem you can and commenting on it without putting your new friend down. Finally ask the person what the asking price is and how much interest there is in the car. After all this let the seller know how much you have always wanted one and let out that the economy is bad and it has taken a real toll. Then lowball the hell out of him. See is he comes down at all and maybe come up just a hair. If he does not take the offer leave your number and let him know that you need to check your finances. Tell him that you want the car(if you do) and walk away!! Wait a couple of days and call the seller back. Spend about another 15 minutes catching up with your new friend and then discuss price. This method works 95% of the time. I have been using this method for years and used it last week. I purchased an 04 Discovery for $2700 when the asking was $6200

amsch...

I must agree, with others here, your statements lead us to believe that you are likely less than honest.

"I picked up my 00 2.7 for $5500 he was asking $10500."

I seriously doubt this.

"I was able to find a complete black glass top with frame for $350."

Id love to know where you found this.

"Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal"

That is just creepy as hell.

"Then lowball the hell out of him. See is he comes down at all and maybe come up just a hair. If he does not take the offer leave your number and let him know that you need to check your finances. Tell him that you want the car(if you do) and walk away!!"

Lowball the hell out of him? Really??

"This method works 95% of the time. I have been using this method for years and used it last week. I purchased an 04 Discovery for $2700 when the asking was $6200"

Again...I seriously doubt this.

"I have purchased over 35 cars in my life time and I am only 36 and never have lost a dime on a vehicle"

Come on.......BS.

"My job is to low ball people and contractors and get the best value for my money."

Sounds kinda low class to me.

[amschnellsten]

Originally Posted by John99Boxster

amsch...

I must agree, with others here, your statements lead us to believe that you are likely less than honest.

"I picked up my 00 2.7 for $5500 he was asking $10500."

I seriously doubt this.

"I was able to find a complete black glass top with frame for $350."

Id love to know where you found this.

"Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal"

That is just creepy as hell.

"Then lowball the hell out of him. See is he comes down at all and maybe come up just a hair. If he does not take the offer leave your number and let him know that you need to check your finances. Tell him that you want the car(if you do) and walk away!!"

Lowball the hell out of him? Really??

"This method works 95% of the time. I have been using this method for years and used it last week. I purchased an 04 Discovery for $2700 when the asking was $6200"

Again...I seriously doubt this.

"I have purchased over 35 cars in my life time and I am only 36 and never have lost a dime on a vehicle"

Come on.......BS.

"My job is to low ball people and contractors and get the best value for my money."

Sounds kinda low class to me.

Seriously, did max run out and contact you to help you win his battle.


1. I did purchase my 00 for my wife, the car was purchased at auction in Orlando by a dealer, His original asking price was $10,500 then lowered to $8000. The car had a torn top and a blown engine mount (you can check my other thread) I imagine that everyone that test drove the car was scarred off by the thump that occurred on every shift. Yes I did low ball the guy and offered him $5k, he said that he could not do that because he had $5k in the car. He later called back after he was unable to move the car due to a faulty ignition switch. We then settled on $5500.

2. I was able to get my top for $350 because I used to own a Performance shop and dealt with a large yard in Northern Ohio and became very good friends with the owners Son who has now taken over the yard. If you are looking for something please let me know and I will try and find the best deal for you.

3. My original statement "Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal" had a bit of sarcasm in it. I was merely telling people to focus on the seller for the first half an hour to learn more about the seller and their habits and try and make a new friend. There is nothing wrong with that. Would you give a friend a deal?

4. Low ball? Why not? It's your money.

5.I paid $2700 for the Disco, for multiple reasons, The Po needed to buy a Mini van for his upcoming family. I found the drivers side head gasket weeping and the "three amigos were lit up". The Dealer only offered him $2k as a trade in and after he learned that I am an aficionado and knew what I was talking about he was very happy with my offer. Since the transaction he called back to know if I was interested in the roof rack also. Man he must hate me. If you knew a little about Rovers you would know that they are a bottomless pit for repairs and their value reflects it.

6. If you would look at my previous posts you would realize that when I said that "I have never lost a dime" you would understand how I determine value. I do not count my time in for repairs that I do myself, and that I count driving time as as value. For instance if I buy a car for for $10k, drive the car for two years, and sell the car for $9.5 I have not lost money. It's simple economics.

7.my statement "My job is to low ball people and contractors and get the best value for my money." I own a Real Estate company and I am a developer by trade and if you knew anything about my field you would understand the typical contractor. I do very well and I am well respected. Once again Max thinks I need formal education. I believe my degree in Architecture and Construction Management from DAAP is formal enough.

8. calling me low class again, Come on.............................. I have already admitted that I would rather be 3rd class than a first class ass like Max.



If you would also look back at the previous posts there are many that agree with me. I should have left the out the sarcasm out of my original post on buying skills and just told the op to make friends for the first half an hour. For that I apologize. Look back Max started out with the name calling.

[John99Boxster]

No name calling here....simply my observations.

[amschnellsten]

Originally Posted by John99Boxster

No name calling here....simply my observations.

Fair enough, If you do need anything for your car please feel free to PM me. I have some decent connections for new and used parts.

[Perfectlap]

^ I have a friend who employs a similar strategy. But brings the wife to play the skeptic to point out all the blemishes.
Then he calls back and says, "great car but the wife unit has put the kibosh on anything over X. Can you do X?".

[mikefocke]

A variation of good-cop/bad-cop and I'm sure my wife and I have employed a similar strategy. I've also done well by walking out and letting the sales guy suddenly figure out he can in fact do the deal at that price. It has worked as long as several days later when I get a call from the sales manager who now needs the sale for his quota/bonus.

[amschnellsten]

Thanks Fatmike. Your on the same page I am.

If you are very friendly you can learn a lot about people and cars that they are selling. I guess I did not clarify enough for some. Please do not be creepy and walk up and start asking personal questions. Make a new friend just like a normal 3rd class citizen.

[NoGaBiker]

It will be a tough sell, for sure. 981 on the horizon, unusual and VERY bright color really limits the potential market, and aforementioned breeches of good taste all conspire to make this one fairly sale proof at anything but below-market rates.