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That is true, and you have an off the shelf single row bearing. I'm no lawyer, but, I would think one could back door porsche through the bearing company as the original bearings are a custom design (OEM) by porsche built by NSK and not available to the public. I am sure NSK documents, emails, drawings, etc. will show the flaws of a design reported to porsche most likely before during and after the failures took place. Hence we come to the off the shelf of the single row bearing, and the replacement engine bearing, 2 different designs used at the same time, 1 design to use up stock (single row) even though it was a flawed design. I am sure that a lawsuit would have to come Texas as their laws provide for a pre lawsuit subpoena of all evidence to see if a lawsuit is viable.

I went through this 2.5 years ago with my 2004, I dealt with Porsche and they agreed to provide discount on the motor but I had to get it installed at the dealer. I don't have much advice but say you have to stay calm and be patient. Try not to burn any bridges unless you have to.

an interesting strategy. One often used in criminal cases. Go after the enablers who don't have the resources of the ring leader.

I'm willing to bet NSK (or any other supplier Porsche may have used) have no details of the IMS bearing installation.
Porsche design engineers would have finalised the complete engine design and then sent out pricing enquiry's to several bearing manufacturers requesting supply and delivery costs for so many thousand of type xxxx bearings.
NSK, FAG, Timken, et al, are not players in "in house" designs (unless specifically asked), their products are catalogued & sold around the world to conform to international numbering identification specifications - its up to the design engineers at Porsche to specify the size and type of bearing to be used for the application.
To quote landrovered, The supplier is not at fault.......as long as he supplies what Porsche asked for.

How long have you had this car?

Is this the same car you were thinking about buying back in December... with a blown engine?

Is this guy seriously complaining about a car he bought with an already grenaded engine? Tha same one JFP and others said wasn't worth the 13k asking price?

When you write PCNA, make sure the letter starts like this:

Dear PCNA,

I bought a car with a blown up engine. I would like you to fix it for me. I knew it was a dead roller when I paid too much for it ($13k), but I would like you to fix it for free anyway. If you do not, I will start a negative Facebook page, make goofy videos and park the car in front of the dealership because it has a blown engine...that I already knew about...before I bought it.

Well if that don't beat all...

So, the PO sold it as a car with a compromised engine and told the truth up front? If the engine was blown how did he get any drive time? Are you guys saying he bought it as a roller and then thought he could Ralph Nader himself an engine? If so that is a classic for the ages.

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/31458-porsche-boxster-s-2005-good-deal-not.html

My favorite part is where JFP tells him it is only worth $13k if it has $7k in cash stuffed in the trunk.

Yes I bought it toasted! but I prefer that case scenario than buying it running (almost dead) drive couple miles and then get stuck at a red light because of IMS bearing.

I think there is 0 (Zero) relationship between the life of the vehicle and if a person just start to own it running or not.

The matter is that there is a Porsche Boxster 987 with only 42k that got engine damage due to the common IMS bearing failure. And the thread topic:

How to get Porsche replace my 2005 987 Porsche engine IMS bearing failure at 42023 mi

Greg

Yeah that was a home run, man the reading has been fun this year... What's dumb is he got great tips from multiple sources and ignored them all. then again his initial mission was a subie swap. I guess once he found that was going to require more than a couple new bolts he bailed.

You're funny.

How much did you pay for this car?

I have just the solution for you.

FERDINAND GT3 RS - The World`s slowest Porsche - YouTube

Is it me or does this whole affair border on fraud? Call it the precursor to fraud, it absolutely shows intent to defraud.

Wow, thank you OP for the entertainment.

WOW! Did I just read this right?!?! Amazing.......

This Clown's post reminded me of the "just been had" emotion that came over me over 40 years back when I opened the envelope containing my newly acquired Sea Monkeys. :barf:

Good luck with Porsche :rolleyes:

My advice is to crawl back under your rock. Guys/People like you give victims a harder time. You bought a 3,000 pound paperweight and you want someone to GIVE you something? Soliciting advice to alleviate your ignorance is childish and your posting on Facebook is indeed fraud. You are not a victim. Whatever plan you had not only didn't work but it makes it harder for those who have had real losses to get any traction in a claim. Bad Ju Ju boy, bad Ju Ju. :ah:

Exactly. Lame, lame.

He's just as bad as those people that tells his friends and relatives he has cancer but in fact he's just looking to scam them for money.

I feel like a fool for backing him trying to part out the parts...lesson learned.

Man, this is revolting. While Porsche engineered flawed parts worthy of being trashed, the lack of scruples demonstrated by this poster has shed embarrassment reflecting all owners of Porsche. I am mortified at the audacity of some people...

You bought it - the way you preferred it and now you're parting it out while wondering how to get Porsche to replace an engine in a car you are currently dismantling? And you have the poor judgement to trash them?

You need to take that roller you bought and try to get your money out of it since you were clearly advised to stay away from it by members here.

"I think there is 0 (Zero) relationship between the life of the vehicle and if a person just start to own it running or not".



I feel a real idiot even replying to this gonad. He's probably sat there smirking !!

What goes around, comes around mate.......

Well, I'm going to give him the benefit of one doubt. When I was younger as a lot of you know my dad had a car dealership. I had a lot of HS friends who bought cars that were barely passing inspection many times to have "that" car. Sometimes it was worse than that they bought because it had Cragars or a Pioneer supertuner III. My brother and I got a lot of tang fixing some of those mistakes, seems like every girl brought us orange drink as a thank you for our refined wrenching skills! When I sold my 986 it was yet to be smoked in, pristine inside, I didn't want to sell it as a roller but it turned out to be the blessing everyone said it would. I can see how someone yearning for a Porsche and unaware that trying to get one on the cheap never is, could get snookered into buying one. I wanted to buy an Opel GT that sat nine years through school in a yard rotting, thank god my father vetoed that notion. The distinction with this lad is people with experience and multiple P car ownership tried to keep him from a mistake, in the end we make our own choices. I owned a modded X19 that we had to pound the rusted pistons out of to rebuild, thing is we had a full dealer shop, parts out the yang, three racks, factory manuals, training and plenty of time. Even in perfect health I wouldn't want to fix that Fiat again.

Yes Ghost but this guy jumped on the bus after the accident and now is saying his neck hurts.

The first statement I thought you meant "Poon Tang":p, the second proved me wrong.:eek:

I'm glad I wasn't the only one lol, what a Ted Nugent moment. Between that and the "gonad" reference above it I felt a surreal '70's trip.

Comon' guys, do you really think we drank that much space orange juice? In our world at that time whatever worked......worked.

Well he can always sit in it and pretend he's driving it, hey it's the only driving I've done so far. My mileage has been fantastic, I have not cussed on one trip, no door dings and certainly no collisions.

I feel better now. I was like :eek: :D

Only Johnny Danger drinks that much "Tang"...

Some people think the deserve something for nothing. It makes it harder for everyone else.

I'm just curious how the OP thought that Porsche or a dealer would miss the fact that he bought a car that wasn't running? That would obviously need to invovle some very drastic ommissions or straight up false statements.

Dear Mr. Müller,
I recently purchased a 2005 Boxster with 42,000 miles for $5000 but unfortunately the engine was toast (you know, the IMS bearing thing). I don’t have the $27,000 + labor to replace the motor, what do you recommend I do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Signed,
Help Me

Although the forum has been somewhat scammed by the OP, he has a point about a low mileage car getting fixed at Porsche's expense. His question is valid weather or not he is the original owner or he purchased it already toasted. I think Porsche needs to stand behind ALL of their cars that have IMS failure provided the car is under 100K miles and they can satisfy themselves the car has not been abused.

Example:Triumph motorcycle has a problem with their Rocket III models. They have been standing behind many of the repairs and subsequent upgrades and rebuilds of the model even for bikes years out of warranty no matter if you are first or second owner. I purchased mine new in 2007 and purchased a 6 year extended warranty just in case. So far mine is OK. The problem is hit or miss just like the IMS.

You would think the new price of a Porsche should easily pay for a 10 year/100,000 mile warranty. If a cheap $15,000 Hyundai can come with it, why can't a $50,000 to $100,000 plus Porsche ????

The original poster of the thread seems to realize that he made a big mistake and has asked me to close this thread, which seems like a wise thing to do now. There doesn't seem to be any more good tech content to add?

-Wayne