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Old 02-07-2012, 06:51 AM   #1
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Bummer for sure...the culprit may have not known he hit you. I backed up one day into UPS truck...I just didn't turn tight enough on my backup, looked thru my mirror and saw I was to close, hit my brakes hard and never felt the impact do to a sudden of stopping. UPS truck bumper, not even a scratch...my Nissan bumper cover showed a nice little scrape. I would always assume a Porsche owner would bone up to a stupid mistake...I would even shiver thinking that jerks like this would be a Porsche owner.

Yes, I told the UPS driver I tapped his front bumper. We agreed no damage, but he had to report it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:30 AM   #2
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Bummer for sure...the culprit may have not known he hit you.
Not with that kind of damage to RN's car. The typical Porsche driver is probably
hyper sensitive in parking lot situations. Around these parts I always see a Porsche parked far away from other cars, or parked so that car can only park on one side of the car, etc. Awareness goes up a few notches.

This other driver was either really absent-minded or a weasel. Either way not someone I would want driving around me.



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Old 02-07-2012, 06:56 AM   #3
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Randall, was this a PCA Event/Gathering for your local chapter? Maybe give the PCA President a call, or e-mail, and tell him what you have told us. Maybe he can recommend a course of action, or write a note in your next newsletter, and ask for someone to step forward with information about the H&R.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:18 PM   #4
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First body shop estimate... $1000. Said if I turned it into my insurance company they'd shell out more and I might get enough to have the hood and front bumper resprayed at no charge.

Odd thing is they had a Boxster in two weeks earlier with the same identical damage.

Is this the work of a serial Boxster killer?
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:09 PM   #5
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State Farm is not willing to pay for a new quarter panel. The adjuster told the body shop to pound it out and bondo the panel and paint it.

So, I think I have a reasonable case for diminished value since they don't want to pay to have the work done right.

Anyone know how this works and what I should be asking for or expecting vs. what they might attempt to offer me, if anything?

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Old 03-02-2012, 03:52 AM   #6
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Update:

State Farm is not willing to pay for a new quarter panel. The adjuster told the body shop to pound it out and bondo the panel and paint it.

So, I think I have a reasonable case for diminished value since they don't want to pay to have the work done right.

Anyone know how this works and what I should be asking for or expecting vs. what they might attempt to offer me, if anything?
Randall,

I just had to have work done on my car and I will tell you that the "estimator" for Allstate said that he would have everything repaired and use all the same parts with nothing new. I complained and the insurance said "its what we do, we start with what can be reused and go from there". I looked/interviewed body shops and found that Modena Autowerks was highly recommended and when I talked to them about the insurance company MA told me that they would take the car apart and call for a requote and that only new parts would be used in my rebuild. I would suggest calling Jaime at Modena Autowerks and telling him your story and get his thoughts. Long story short - All new parts and car looks INCREDIBLE. Good luck.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:42 AM   #7
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So, I think I have a reasonable case for diminished value since they don't want to pay to have the work done right.
i got a nice letter with my state farm renewal last year (i think) stating that SF would no longer be paying diminished value claims and that any diminished value claim would be denied.

my suggestion, pester your agent if you've had a decent relationship with him/her indicating that should they refuse to pay for the repairs returning the car to its condition before the accident, that you will pay it yourself and find a new agent. might have no effect but never hurts to try.
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Randall -

Based on the year of car and the amount of fixing it, I would think you would have a claim, there is a site that may be of help. Diminished Value Qualification Quiz - See if you qualify to make a claim.

Good luck!
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:39 PM   #9
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Randall, I would appeal the decision and try to have it fixed properly. If you have full coverage that is. Either that or pay the difference between what they will pay and the full repair bill.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:26 AM   #10
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Look for a good panel at a junk yard. Have body shop strip and repaint. I would not think that would cost much if any more then the labor and bonding and taping off of the rest of car.

Also I would talk to your agent about the diminished value of having bondo on a quarter panel versus a solid quarter panel. They may have a little say in the repair.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:38 AM   #11
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If and it's a big "IF" However, if you find a body man who really knows what he's doing he could remove that den't and use such a minimal amount of filler the end result IMO, given it's age would not harm the value or compromise the finished look. The key is the repair guy has to be an expert metal worker.
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When you are doing a fade in a contour line is imperative if you truly don't want to see the blend, otherwise a careful inspection will always show the fade.
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Old 03-03-2012, 02:07 PM   #13
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Thought you all would like to see the progress being made on my car. They've pounded out the panel and ground off all the paint. I pointed out that the panel still needs work though because the seam in the panel and the door widens below that vent and it's too close above it and below it.

Notice the two rust holes just under the vent. Those will be cut out and metal welded in its place to remove it completely. I'm really happy about that.

And wow, the car looks so naked without the rocker panel on it. The insurance company is paying for it to be repainted as well just to make sure it matches. Nice!


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Not trying to de-rail the thread but what seems to be the cause of the two rust spots under the vent? Just wondering because I have two identical ones on my 2000.
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Gerrynoank, Mine had some small bubbles in the exact same place, all I could figure is it has something to do with how that side vent operates.
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My guess is that this is caused by condensation gathering under the fan shroud. The motor's quite hot and cool air brought into the engine compartment may turn into water droplets.

The other thought is that the coolant overflow drain may be dripping onto that piece of the body work from the inside, although I've not researched this one or given it much thought before.

Someone with some serious smarts should get to the bottom of this for us.
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My guess is that this is caused by condensation gathering under the fan shroud. The motor's quite hot and cool air brought into the engine compartment may turn into water droplets.

The other thought is that the coolant overflow drain may be dripping onto that piece of the body work from the inside, although I've not researched this one or given it much thought before.

Someone with some serious smarts should get to the bottom of this for us.
You rang?? Actually, the fan on that side is an exhaust fan, which blows outward to exhaust hot air from the engine compartment. So it is more likely to be ingesting hot air from the engine and blowing it out to the ambient air. I doubt that would cause the kind of condensation that would cause those rust spots. I've never seen them before, ever, on any Boxster. And I'm always either in the southeast, where snow is virtually non existent, or SoCal, where it is actually non-existent. Any chance it is related to snow/road salt or whatever they put on northern roads these days?

EDIT: Randall, I see you're from Houston, so that rules that out. I was looking at the other two people who mentioned having the rust holes, and they're from NY and CT.

Okay, so I'll revise my thesis: maybe it's because you all live by the sea.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:15 AM   #18
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Ah, you are correct. It's an exhaust fan.

My car was originally sold and driven around as a DD in Salt Lake City. I'm betting that salt accumulates up near the exit of the fan and stays moist right there due to the heat and that's what caused it.

Gerrynoank and Ghostrider 310, like my car, are in snowy and thus salt-laden places in the US.
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So Randall when will the Box be out of the recovery room and ready to go for a ride?
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I'm hoping by the end of the week. My guess is that they won't have it done until early next week though. It's just the way things have been going.
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