01-30-2012, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MileHighBoxster
What you say makes sense and I have no reason to doubt that cooler is better. That said, the eminent engineers at Porsche seem to know what they've been doing for over 50 years.
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Usually I would agree with that statement.
But please remember ours was the first water cooled flat 6 they ever built ....
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01-30-2012, 06:00 PM
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Porscheectomy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZang
Usually I would agree with that statement.
But please remember ours was the first water cooled flat 6 they ever built ....
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But far from the first water cooled Porsche.
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01-30-2012, 06:02 PM
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Matt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZang
Usually I would agree with that statement.
But please remember ours was the first water cooled flat 6 they ever built ....
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15 years ago and, to my knowledge, not only have the original late 90's done fine - but they haven't felt a need to change it. Again, as I've stated above, I agree that a cooler running engine is probably better but I don't see any proof that the temperatures are detrimental to the engine. Additionally, as stated above, the thermostat operates on temperature not on the digital readout.
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01-30-2012, 06:13 PM
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The thermostat failed to open on my 190SL one summer day and I didn't see the
temp. guage climbing - in a few minutes the rad cap blew and so did the head gasket. A costly repair including a head rebuild later I installed a failsafe thermostat - 72c . These thermostats fail open. I used that thermostat for six years and never had another problem.
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01-30-2012, 06:26 PM
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Matt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nnewell
The thermostat failed to open on my 190SL one summer day and I didn't see the
temp. guage climbing - in a few minutes the rad cap blew and so did the head gasket. A costly repair including a head rebuild later I installed a failsafe thermostat - 72c . These thermostats fail open. I used that thermostat for six years and never had another problem.
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All thermostats, Chevy, Ford, Ferrari, Porsche.... can fail to open. It just doesn't happen very often.
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01-30-2012, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MileHighBoxster
15 years ago and, to my knowledge, not only have the original late 90's done fine - but they haven't felt a need to change it. Again, as I've stated above, I agree that a cooler running engine is probably better but I don't see any proof that the temperatures are detrimental to the engine. Additionally, as stated above, the thermostat operates on temperature not on the digital readout.
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For what its worth, other modern P cars, the GT2 and GT3s, IIRC, have 160 deg thermostats.
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01-30-2012, 06:49 PM
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Yep, at 94K miles my original water pump began to weep a bit and since it is a known weak link, it had to go. While we were in there a new motorsport 160F T-stat and a few idler pulleys were replaced. 90% of this job is getting the car in the air, accessing the work area and draining and refilling the coolant. I do tend to use ALL of the car so a fresh 160F T-Stat at 94k was a no-brainer.
Would I have gone to the trouble of changing a working T-Stat if my car was only 4 years old, had 20K miles, and the water pump and coolant looked great? Nope.
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01-30-2012, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
Yep, at 94K miles my original water pump began to weep a bit and since it is a known weak link, it had to go. While we were in there a new motorsport 160F T-stat and a few idler pulleys were replaced. 90% of this job is getting the car in the air, accessing the work area and draining and refilling the coolant. I do tend to use ALL of the car so a fresh 160F T-Stat at 94k was a no-brainer.
Would I have gone to the trouble of changing a working T-Stat if my car was only 4 years old, had 20K miles, and the water pump and coolant looked great? Nope.
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Replacing the t-stat was a piece of cake. Just clamp off the hose to the t-stat, take the hose off the housing, about 2 quarts of coolant comes out. Remove 4 bolts from the housing and its off. Reverse to install.
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1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
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01-30-2012, 07:03 PM
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Track rat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by san rensho
Replacing the t-stat was a piece of cake. Just clamp off the hose to the t-stat, take the hose off the housing, about 2 quarts of coolant comes out. Remove 4 bolts from the housing and its off. Reverse to install.
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So did you change out that POS water pump while you were in there?
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01-30-2012, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
So did you change out that POS water pump while you were in there?
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Did that last summer.
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1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
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11-09-2015, 04:20 AM
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I changed my thermostat to a low temp version when I changed out the water pump and replaced system with fresh coolant. I also added an S center radiator to my 99 base 2.5. Because I felt like it!
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