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ekam · 12-15-2011, 08:37 AM

2013 Porsche Boxster Spy Shots

Wow, they took out the whole clamshell and the doors really are going to look like that from the previous spy shots...

blue2000s · 12-15-2011, 10:40 AM

The most interesting part about that article is the passing mention of the revived 914. The continued addition of "refinement" to the Boxster allows for the possibility of an addition of a car that's actually meant for driving entertainment. I can only wish.

How great would it be to have a Porsche that competes with the next:

http://chrisescars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2015-Lotus-Elise-3.jpg

And the upcoming:

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/cms-images/Alfa-Romeo-4C.jpg

pothole · 12-19-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s

The most interesting part about that article is the passing mention of the revived 914. The continued addition of "refinement" to the Boxster allows for the possibility of an addition of a car that's actually meant for driving entertainment. I can only wish.

How great would it be to have a Porsche that competes with the next:

http://chrisescars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2015-Lotus-Elise-3.jpg

And the upcoming:

http://www.contracthireandleasing.com/cms-images/Alfa-Romeo-4C.jpg

The new small roadster is a shared project with other members of the VAG group so I've a feeling it will disappoint. There's talk of flat fours, but if I am honest I would only be interested in a naturally aspirated flat six. And I doubt it will get that.

I'm not even sure if it's even plausible for it to have even a flat four. That would basically require it to be fitted longitudinally and I reckon the other sister models will have transverse three and four-pot engines. Can't see them spending the money on engineering both longitudinal and transverse installations.

But that's OK. Plenty of nice early 986s to choose from. Relatively compact, relatively light. Lovely flat six. Job done.

blue2000s · 12-19-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pothole

The new small roadster is a shared project with other members of the VAG group so I've a feeling it will disappoint. There's talk of flat fours, but if I am honest I would only be interested in a naturally aspirated flat six. And I doubt it will get that.

I'm not even sure if it's even plausible for it to have even a flat four. That would basically require it to be fitted longitudinally and I reckon the other sister models will have transverse three and four-pot engines. Can't see them spending the money on engineering both longitudinal and transverse installations.

But that's OK. Plenty of nice early 986s to choose from. Relatively compact, relatively light. Lovely flat six. Job done.

It looks like Porsche is in charge of development for the project, at least I've read that VAG is putting Porsche in charge of sports car platforms.

I'm totally OK with a 4-cylinder engine. In fact, I've enjoyed all of my cars with 4-bangers, the Mitsubishi and Subaru 2.0 turbos are great. My favorite though was my 1.7L v-tech. In a small, light car, that engine would be a gem. Hmm, sounds suspiciously similar to the Elise that we have in the states with the Toyota engine.

pothole · 12-19-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s

It looks like Porsche is in charge of development for the project, at least I've read that VAG is putting Porsche in charge of sports car platforms.

I'm totally OK with a 4-cylinder engine. In fact, I've enjoyed all of my cars with 4-bangers, the Mitsubishi and Subaru 2.0 turbos are great. My favorite though was my 1.7L v-tech. In a small, light car, that engine would be a gem. Hmm, sounds suspiciously similar to the Elise that we have in the states with the Toyota engine.

The flat-six is central to the specialness of Porsches for me. I love the way the 968 drives, for instance, but the four banger means I wouldn't ever buy one.

There are plenty of four pots out there. It would be a real tragedy if Porsche started to phase the flat-six out.

blue2000s · 12-19-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pothole

The flat-six is central to the specialness of Porsches for me. I love the way the 968 drives, for instance, but the four banger means I wouldn't ever buy one.

There are plenty of four pots out there. It would be a real tragedy if Porsche started to phase the flat-six out.

What about the 356 or our dear 550 spyder? It all started with hopped up VW bug engines.

Overdrive · 12-15-2011, 11:59 AM

That friggin Alfa, man...drool material.

landrovered · 12-15-2011, 12:45 PM

I think it looks more grown up, I like the bigger intake on the side and losing the clamshell is fine with me. I wonder how the top will go down?

WhipE350 · 12-15-2011, 01:27 PM

I like it! Like I thought they were going to start using the Cayman hockey stick intake. Hood is nice!

DenverSteve · 12-15-2011, 03:41 PM

Yep. It looks like a ... Boxster. It's already the most entertaining car to drive.

barkinfool · 12-15-2011, 06:18 PM

First off, I think it looks really great! I haven't seen a Boxster look I prefer in any significant way since the 986, until now. I'm really happy that some shots I saw of the tail lights clad with some crazy hardware design turn out to by b.s. Seriously, I thought someone was crazed.

As far as the elimination of the clamshell, how would the roof work then??? Not the Spyder, so what are you guys thinking on that? I'm sure someone else less technical out there is thinking the same Q or am I just stupid?

Blue, the 2 pics you posted sure look nice as well. Are those competitors really coming in 2013?

As for the Boxster vs Cayman, I've not owned a Cayman, but I love the convertible more than I ever thought I would. Love the sun, so can't imagine wanting the Cayman when given the choice!

jbs986 · 12-15-2011, 06:35 PM

Is it just me? this thing looks HUGE. the 2012 looks allot bigger then the 986 & 987 and the price is creeping up as well. I think Porsche is making the new Boxster bigger to raise the price higher to make room for a new smaller Boxster. hopefully it will be lighter and cheaper as well.

The new 911 is bigger and is more like a GT car then a sports car and the prices are going up as well. I wish Porsche would make a small lightweight car in the $40k price range. like the Lotus Elise.

barkinfool · 12-15-2011, 06:36 PM

Oh, and forgot there was something I'm not sure I liked. Anybody think the spoiler looked too weak & delicate. Just a thought....

blue2000s · 12-16-2011, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by barkinfool

Blue, the 2 pics you posted sure look nice as well. Are those competitors really coming in 2013?

The first car is the 2014-2015 Lotus Elise.

The second is the 2013 Alfa Romeo 4C.

ekam · 12-16-2011, 06:29 AM

That's just a concept made by Lotus designers... not the actual design of the Elise that's coming.

blue2000s · 12-16-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ekam

That's just a concept made by Lotus designers... not the actual design of the Elise that's coming.

Judging by the news and pics of the new Esprit, there's a good chance the Elise will be very similar to the concept. The Elise is Lotus' most successful model ever so you can bet there will be a 3rd gen in the near future.

ekam · 12-18-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s

Judging by the news and pics of the new Esprit, there's a good chance the Elise will be very similar to the concept. The Elise is Lotus' most successful model ever so you can bet there will be a 3rd gen in the near future.

With the new Lotus CEO being a douche to car journalists... I give him and the company as much credibility as Elon Musk.

Don't hold your breath on lightweight elise...

http://jalopnik.com/5694750/lotus-explains-its-new+found-love-of-fatties

blue2000s · 12-18-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ekam

With the new Lotus CEO being a douche to car journalists... I give him and the company as much credibility as Elon Musk.

Don't hold your breath on lightweight elise...

Lotus Explains Its New-Found Love Of Fatties

The 1st gen Elise was 1700 pounds, the second gen is 2000 pounds, even at 2400 pounds, the 3rd gen is a light weight. I hate to see it pork up, but what it is is what it is.

Clearly it's coming and it will still be more pure than the Boxster with the electic power steering and ever increasing dimensions that Porsche has added.

Overdrive · 12-16-2011, 02:08 PM

I wonder if they're going Miata-style with the top and just having it fold behind you with no clamshell. It seems that the rear has more of a slant to it than before, so may the glass drops flat quickly and the rest of the top just rests on it.

Perfectlap · 12-16-2011, 02:48 PM

It looks like a Panamera with high, jacked up butt. The sides of the car also look too tall for me (look at picture #8), like if you were sitting in a coupe that had it's roof sliced near the top 1/3 of the greenhouse.
The soft top looks weird in the back without the clamshell. And I'm not a fan of the un-imaginative Carrera GT recyled door style. Seems like they're going toward a convertible buyer and not a roadster enthusiast. Oh and that whole flat six thing....

p.s.
Lotus is bringing their A-game. I like the shift toward Lamborghini-esque styling.