11-06-2011, 06:08 AM
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car dead wife mad
engine will not start . starter turns over engine but no start. turned key off but dash lights stay on. ran great 2 days ago ? thanks for your help on this !
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11-06-2011, 06:20 AM
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I think you have a bigger issue that the car will not start..........the wife is mad.
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11-06-2011, 07:09 AM
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I'm not sure why the wife would be mad because the car won't start. If it turns over but won't ignite it's either: fuel, air or spark. Start with one and make sure you have all three. Start with your gas, it's easiest. Dash lights stay on for a while after turning the car off.
Last edited by MileHighBoxster; 11-06-2011 at 07:11 AM.
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11-06-2011, 07:21 AM
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what do you mean by dash lights? you mean the odo? or the "idiot lights"?
have you replaced the ignition switch?
could be starter...
Boxster S Starter Issue - YouTube
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11-08-2011, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MileHighBoxster
Start with your gas, it's easiest. Dash lights stay on for a while after turning the car off.
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Good call MileHigh. Exactly right.
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11-09-2011, 03:08 AM
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When I pulled the old pump out I noticed that it was FULL of gas, saturated. Not just the pump area but the motor area also. I think that after 13 years of sitting in gas a seal gave up and flooded the whole pump. I noticed the electrical connector as well as the housing was brittle. It was time for it to go, I feel. Thanks Again to all of you !!!! Ps There is a procedure for doing this change out. Read it before you try !!!!!
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11-06-2011, 07:20 AM
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You should look for a shop thats willing to lend you a spark tester. Spark testing is super straightforward :P
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11-06-2011, 07:22 AM
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With the 993s there is an issue with the DME relay. This is the module that controls the fuel pump. I wonder if this is also an issue with Boxsters. Keep us posted. Oh, and good luck with the wife; happy wife, happy life.
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11-06-2011, 07:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milliemax
engine will not start . starter turns over engine but no start. turned key off but dash lights stay on. ran great 2 days ago ? thanks for your help on this !
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Did water leak into your interior recently?
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11-06-2011, 08:12 AM
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Thank you all for helping. No water, garage kept. no key switch done that I know of. starter turns engine but no start. lights on dash were clock and another one , not idiot lights. I know there is a delay, but waited and then disconected the battery. Wife mad because she loves to take the car any time she can.
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11-06-2011, 10:24 AM
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My guess - fuel pump. These fail with no warning. The engine will crank but the engine won't fire. A couple of weeks ago, I drove mine to doggie daycare, dropped the pooch off, and went to start the car. Forty-five minutes later, the car was on a flatbed to the shop. They popped in a new pump and the car fired right up.
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11-06-2011, 10:56 AM
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My thoughts also. No smell at the exhaust. Did just try to install new ignition switch. The spare new one is defective. It is 45 degrees off on rotation to line up with slot . Played for 2 hours aligning slot (off-on-start) Made in god knows where, can someone help!!! uro parts 4a0905849b A miserable afternoon. My wife keeps asking if it is fixed yet. 99 2.5 90k 3rd owner garaged all records Thanks to all, Max
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11-06-2011, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milliemax
My thoughts also. No smell at the exhaust. Did just try to install new ignition switch. The spare new one is defective. It is 45 degrees off on rotation to line up with slot . Played for 2 hours aligning slot (off-on-start) Made in god knows where, can someone help!!! uro parts 4a0905849b A miserable afternoon. My wife keeps asking if it is fixed yet. 99 2.5 90k 3rd owner garaged all records Thanks to all, Max
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Sounds like the ignition switch is the culprit still. Look there first. Power to the starter but not the ignition module.... ding ding ding.
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11-06-2011, 11:17 AM
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Better to have the car dead than the wife!
Hope you get it sorted.
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11-06-2011, 02:40 PM
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Try spraying wd40 (not starter fluid) into the intake, if it catches for a second, then you know its a fuel problem. No catch, its the spark.
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11-09-2011, 04:29 AM
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Did you need a special tool to remove the big ring on the top of the tank? I expect my car will need a new pump some day and remember something about a special tool. I'm kind of afraid of working on a fuel pump inside my garage. Visions of the house burning down to the ground.
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11-09-2011, 04:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale_K
........... I'm kind of afraid of working on a fuel pump inside my garage. Visions of the house burning down to the ground.
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Safety first, when working on fuel systems. Several years ago, I replaced the fuel filter in my wife's MB E320 -- it's in the tank. I waited for the fuel level to get close to zero before I opened the tank. Also used flashlights as I didn't want anything that could potentially spark.
As far as the tool goes, the MB tool was $85 so I would expect the Porsche one to be more -- I would try a belt wrench if I had to do the job.
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11-09-2011, 05:05 AM
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Dale, No special tool...Just go to boxter fuel pump page down a little to best way to drain a fuel pump This is a Pelican Parts tech article. go to Pelican tech article boxter fuel pump replacement 986/987 follow their instructions to the T read it twice so you understand ( I had to) I would have destroyed a few things if I had not read this article. Great article !!! I pushed the car out of the garage and away from the home to do this as I was concerned also. Every thing came out just like the article told me. Including the CHISEL AND HAMMER !!! Yes...CHISEL AND HAMMER Good luck Once you do it , you could do it every day !!!
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11-09-2011, 05:40 AM
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...so I take it the wife is happy again?
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11-09-2011, 05:54 AM
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replaced mine last year. very little gasoline actually lost. hardest part was getting the new one back in place. just followed pedro's write up.
Replace the Fuel Filter
no smoking, stay away from open flames - the usual. keep the garage door open or do it outside. i actually went to my local ford quick lube place who has been cool enough to allow me to "rent" their lift for the few times i need the car up in the air.
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