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			I'm all for getting good value at better prices, but when it comes to tires I am much less inclined to skimp on cost, it's just too important a part of the vehicle to me.  I'm the same with my riding gear for the motorcycle, I'm willing to spend the money.  When it comes to tires and brakes I'm willing to spend the money to be able to drive (spirited or otherwise) safely.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-03-2011, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			17 inch rims limit your choices. The best rubber for 17 inch is the Michelin ps or a better choice mentioned earlier is Bridgestone RE11 s. if you move up to 18 than the hankook rs-3 and Dunlop z star spec all are available.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-25-2012, 05:15 AM
			
			
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				17 inch rims limit your choices. The best rubber for 17 inch is the Michelin ps or a better choice mentioned earlier is Bridgestone RE11 s. if you move up to 18 than the hankook rs-3 and Dunlop z star spec all are available. 
			
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You got it. That's part of the reason why I went to 18"s...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2012, 07:43 AM
			
			
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				You got it. That's part of the reason why I went to 18"s... 
			
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I don't know what you guys are talking about.  Essentially every tire is available in both 17 and 18.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-25-2012, 08:05 AM
			
			
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			Topless: Not really. Ive been in the Tire business for 40 years and am the Director of Sales for a large Tire Distributor. The 17" is going the way of the 16". 18's are now the standard for most performance cars with 19"-20" the options. Tire manufacturers want to build tires that people want and every 6 months, more and more 17" performance tires are eliminated.  
   BTW, don't you guys forget about the Yokohama Advan AD08. I run them Auto-crossing and I would put them against the Pilot Sport or RE11's any day of the week.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2012, 09:01 AM
			
			
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				I don't know what you guys are talking about.  Essentially every tire is available in both 17 and 18.     
			
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Tirerack result for 205/50/17 & 255/40/17 = 30 results. 
Result for 225/40/18 & 265/35/18 = 40 results.
 
More importantly Z1 Star spec is not available in 17"s for our fitment...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2012, 12:27 PM
			
			
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				Tirerack result for 205/50/17 & 255/40/17 = 30 results. 
Result for 225/40/18 & 265/35/18 = 40 results. 
 
More importantly Z1 Star spec is not available in 17"s for our fitment... 
			
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If you upsize the front to a 225/45/17 you will find nearly every tire including Star Specs.  More selection, less understeer, shorter stopping distance... a win-win-win.   A 205 up front is far less interesting to most Boxster drivers so don't let that size stop you.
 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Direzza+Sport+Z1+Star+Spec
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-25-2012, 08:55 AM
			
			
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				I'm all for getting good value at better prices, but when it comes to tires I am much less inclined to skimp on cost, it's just too important a part of the vehicle to me. 
			
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Besides, how else would we play frogger on the highway?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2012, 09:05 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Overdrive;262597[B
					
				 
				]I'm all for getting good value at better prices, but when it comes to tires I am much less inclined to skimp on cost,[/B] it's just too important a part of the vehicle to me.  I'm the same with my riding gear for the motorcycle, I'm willing to spend the money.  When it comes to tires and brakes I'm willing to spend the money to be able to drive (spirited or otherwise) safely. 
			
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Eggzactly, why would you buy a premium sports car then get skimpy on something vitally linked to performance and safety?
 
PS I have no doubt the Yoko advans are great tires, the Sumatomo's are not being dissed because they are from japan
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			07-25-2012, 10:13 AM
			
			
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			We are a distributor for both barnds and Ive run both. The Sumitomo ZIII is a great tire for the money and wears great. Tire Rack gave the tire a great review. But I found the tire a little slick for autocrossing or DE events. The Yokohama AD08 is much more expensive but the grip is unbelievable. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2012, 11:45 AM
			
			
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				We are a distributor for both barnds and Ive run both. The Sumitomo ZIII is a great tire for the money and wears great. Tire Rack gave the tire a great review. But I found the tire a little slick for autocrossing or DE events. The Yokohama AD08 is much more expensive but the grip is unbelievable. 
			
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In other words you get what you pay for
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2012, 12:48 PM
			
			
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				We are a distributor for both barnds and Ive run both. The Sumitomo ZIII is a great tire for the money and wears great. Tire Rack gave the tire a great review. But I found the tire a little slick for autocrossing or DE events. The Yokohama AD08 is much more expensive but the grip is unbelievable. 
			
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Yoki AD08s are very good tires.  Hankook RS-3 are every bit as good as AD08s in AX and DE for about 1/2 price.  Also available in 17s.   
Disclaimer:  I am not a tire professional I just play one on TV.     I also have been very fortunate to drive a fairly well sorted 2.5L Boxster that holds most of the track records in class around SoCal/Nevada.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-25-2012, 09:00 PM
			
			
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			I heard Mushimoto ZX are good.   
each to his own, but for me its 
Bridgestone Potenza Re002 or Re11 
failing that,  
Yokohama Ad08
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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