09-10-2011, 06:48 AM
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My car smokes a little about 20% of the time on cold starts. The price of the AOS is only about $150 so they're gouging you on the price they quoted. I bet it doesn't take an experienced mechanic more than 2 hours.
You can give the car an unofficial AOS test by attempting to remove the oil fill cap with the motor running. A bad AOS puts an extreme vacuum on the crankcase and therefore the oil fill cap is hard to lift off.
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09-10-2011, 12:33 PM
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If you are parked pointing uphill, the puff is very likely.
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09-10-2011, 06:39 PM
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Location: Denver/Winter Park, CO USA
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Originally Posted by Bobiam
If you are parked pointing uphill, the puff is very likely.
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Yes. For some reason, if I parked my first Box on an uphill grade, it would smoke for a second on start up. When I changed to backing in to park (when parked outside) it did not do it. Can't say why.
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09-10-2011, 09:47 PM
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Just replaced my AOS today. One day before I went on vacation in the beginning of August it malfunctioned. Not too much warning. A had a bit of smoke when starting in the week before, nothing too alarming. Then suddenly CROP DUSTER! Lots of smoke and a lousy running engine.
The new AOS was $121 at Pelican Parts, including $3 for 3 day shipping. Great service, thanks!
Putting the damn thing in was a ********************, though. It's not extremely difficult, but the access really, really sucks. I did the whole operation from the top. Supposedly you should be able to get to the AOS from the bottom by reaching through the linkage. However, I think you need chimp arms, my arms were just not long enough. You can do the whole thing from the top but you need to tie some stuff aside to be able to reach in. The main thing in the way is a big black tube. Luckily you can take it apart and tie it away. IMPORTANT, and said by other people before, you need cable operated hose clamp pliers. I got mine from Sears. Forget about doing this operation without these pliers. You need it to release the clamps on the bottom tube of the AOS. Even with these pliers it's very difficult to access these clamps, there is just too much stuff in the way. A little mirror to look underneath the AOS is indispensable, especially to make sure that the bottom tube is hooked up properly.
The whole operation took me about 6 hours, but that's including jacking up the car and deciding not to go that way. I think 4 hours is realistic. Saved myself a couple of hundred of bucks probably. $850 sounds like a ripoff.
Hey, no more smoke! And still a lot of nice, top-down days ahead.
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11-27-2011, 04:59 PM
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Thinking of ordering the parts and doing this myself. I am pretty handy but is there anything I should do that you would have done differently? Looks like I have another weekend project coming up.
Also a detailed list of what tools/parts needed would be great. My car started smoking on startup today and had a rough idle throughout the day. I also started the car and removed the oil cap and there is a ton of "sucking" going on. Looks like I need to get to this asap.
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11-27-2011, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 Boxster
Thinking of ordering the parts and doing this myself. I am pretty handy but is there anything I should do that you would have done differently? Looks like I have another weekend project coming up.
Also a detailed list of what tools/parts needed would be great. My car started smoking on startup today and had a rough idle throughout the day. I also started the car and removed the oil cap and there is a ton of "sucking" going on. Looks like I need to get to this asap.
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Make sure you read the usual stuff:
airoilseparatorreplacement - mikefocke2
Pelican Technical Article: Boxster Air / Oil Separator Replacement - 986 / 987
Replace the Air/Oil Separator
I basically replaced the AOS without removing anything else and working from the top of the engine, not an experience that I'd like to repeat. I probably would try to follow Pedro's advice and remove some more stuff from the top to get better access.
The only special tool that you NEED is the cable operated hose clamp pliers.
Good luck.
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11-28-2011, 06:09 PM
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Well yesterday I had some smoke at 2 different startups as well as a rough idle. Today it ran like a dream all day. No smoke and no rough idle. Explanation!!
Don't want to replace if I don't have too.
Hmmmmm. Should I wait until its smokes again? Still tons of sucking from the oil fill tube.
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11-28-2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 Boxster
Thinking of ordering the parts and doing this myself. I am pretty handy but is there anything I should do that you would have done differently? Looks like I have another weekend project coming up.
Also a detailed list of what tools/parts needed would be great. My car started smoking on startup today and had a rough idle throughout the day. I also started the car and removed the oil cap and there is a ton of "sucking" going on. Looks like I need to get to this asap.
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i wasn't even able to remove to the cap.
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11-29-2011, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tuanle16
i wasn't even able to remove to the cap.
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I can remove the cap no problem but when I do the car runs really crappy.
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1997 Boxster Guards - RED 86k mi - 19" Lobster Claw Wheels on Conti's , Porsche side decal for extra "speed", manual tranny -signed by Hurley Haywood
Phoenix, Arizona
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09-10-2011, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dale_K
My car smokes a little about 20% of the time on cold starts.
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My car does the same on the occasional cold start. It can be discerting the first time it happens but its no big deal (as long as its occasional).
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09-10-2011, 02:57 PM
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It's kinda like a fart. As long as nobody hears (sees) or smells it there's no harm.
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