09-08-2011, 12:48 PM
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If there diffuculties, perhaps you could change the top surface contour of the switch enough that it becomes your own design under your patented control while still retaining a fairly good integration with the 9X6 interiors. For example: you could flatten the peak and valley of the top surface relief. Not as nice but a possible option.
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09-08-2011, 01:50 PM
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I do not have any direct experience with Porsche but I do have a lot of experience with Apple, another firm known for its excellence in design.
And if you want a long term legal battle, then go ahead and create a new design that is somewhat reminiscent of their design and call it your own. Apple will quickly issue legal threats, get court injunctions, and have your products impounded by US Customs until you either run out of money or just give up.
Ask me how I know.
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09-08-2011, 02:49 PM
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..It's an non oem replacement switch for the seat heaters
There are plenty of other examples/manufactures. How do they do it? Check out a Laso water pump. Is a pretty close copy of the genuine Porsche one. Have your legal people research what is needed to be a non oem automotive supplier if needed.
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09-08-2011, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thstone
I do not have any direct experience with Porsche but I do have a lot of experience with Apple, another firm known for its excellence in design.
And if you want a long term legal battle, then go ahead and create a new design that is somewhat reminiscent of their design and call it your own. Apple will quickly issue legal threats, get court injunctions, and have your products impounded by US Customs until you either run out of money or just give up.
Ask me how I know.
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This is the reason we have utilized the Porsche switch..
This is a lot different than a water pump... This is a really sensitive topic...
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09-08-2011, 08:09 PM
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Jake,
If you sell all the IMSG's you can make with the limited number of seat heater switches you can get your hands on...I have question;
What if I have a seat heater switch, I send it to you, you make the IMSG with my parts, will you then sell it back to me minus the cost of the switch? With that, I think you'll sell more by having your customers supplying you the parts you're short, thus relieving you of your DMS issue.
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09-08-2011, 08:44 PM
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We had actually thought of that, but the logistics would be amazing at the insane volume we expect...You have to think, 400 units sold in less than 3 weeks and those purchasers had no idea how the unit worked... And that was done from just one forum thread.
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09-09-2011, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake Raby
We had actually thought of that, but the logistics would be amazing at the insane volume we expect...You have to think, 400 units sold in less than 3 weeks and those purchasers had no idea how the unit worked... And that was done from just one forum thread.
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But you must go for another system if market demand is more than what you can make with all switches you can put your hands on.
Ok I have some seat heater swithces in a box... I luckily saved them from waste and now I believe thay could be used for a right purpose...
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09-09-2011, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake Raby
We had actually thought of that, but the logistics would be amazing at the insane volume we expect...You have to think, 400 units sold in less than 3 weeks and those purchasers had no idea how the unit worked... And that was done from just one forum thread.
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Jake,
So you're saying I can't suppy my own switch to get one made because you can't handle the volume if everyone did it?
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09-09-2011, 09:25 AM
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We could easily supply the systems without the switch and the end user could simply plug it in and install.. Its a no brainer, the switch connector is already in place, wired and tested.
But if someone gets a bad switch out of the box, then we hit an issue that I'd have to avoid.
The way I work is this:
We do things right and all the way, or not at all. I refuse to create variables that can negatively impact my reputation for excellence just to fill an order.. I'd rather lose sales and have backlogs as to risk anything else.
Heard from Porsche just now and 287 switches are due in by the end of the month, so we can maintain our production of the units. Each of these is being assembled on site, here.. Mass production at a factory was not a possibility- none of them could meet my expectations for quality.
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