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Old 09-08-2011, 03:47 AM   #1
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This means that we'll soon start a race to get one piece until the switch issue will be definetely solved staying with eyes open wide to check the website to place a pre order for about 230 pieces more.

If you publicize the IMSG all over the US and even worldwide, a thousand of pieces could not be enough to fulfill request. I'm sure you're planning something different to give your customer the chance to get one of this useful devices. Isn't so?

PS: I just want to underline that I'm not questioning your knowledge or commitment into developing this device or even discussing your methods, I indeed appreciate your effort in such a development and engineering Porsche's technology. Please, forgive my language since I'm really not so skilled with english and could say something which is not written as intended.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:00 AM   #2
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This means that we'll soon start a race to get one piece until the switch issue will be definetely solved staying with eyes open wide to check the website to place a pre order for about 230 pieces more.
Pretty much.. The switch is imperative to the original design of the IMSG in regard to seamless installation, resulting in a vehicle that appears to be 100% "stock". I have been working with another switch manufacturer, however it is likely that the shape of the Porsche switch is specific and may lead to conflicts with Porsche if we decided to replicate it. We are investigating this now; but we can take no risks with this. It is entirely possible that another interface will need to be supplied with the units that are produced after the current switch supply is depleted.

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If you publicize the IMSG all over the US and even worldwide, a thousand of pieces could not be enough to fulfill request.
1000?? Hell, we have 400 pieces already spoken for and the technology is still yet to be revealed! We need multiple thousands of these and have all the other components required to produce these numbers already on hand. The switch is the missing link undoubtedly.

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I'm sure you're planning something different to give your customer the chance to get one of this useful devices. Isn't so?
Yes, but we must approach this very carefully. Also you have to understand that we spent MONTHS trying to get the system perfected with the stock Porsche switch and due to this the circuit boards and wiring harness are specifically set up for that particular switch. Until we placed an order for switches that depleted the US stock of them we had no knowledge that PAG would limit the number of switches they were willing to supply to us.

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PS: I just want to underline that I'm not questioning your knowledge or commitment into developing this device or even discussing your methods, I indeed appreciate your effort in such a development and engineering Porsche's technology. Please, forgive my language since I'm really not so skilled with english and could say something which is not written as intended.
No problem. We have a challenge with the switches, but its a good problem to have when thousands of people want something.. Its not a good problem to have when people can't have the order filled due to a single switch that we more than likely cannot reproduce without some sort of possible recourse with the MFR.

I have two more designs in wok at the present that will retain the functionality of the system, but won't integrate into the stock dash as seamlessly. To me, all that matters is saving an engine with the use of this system, and IMHO the purchasers are being too concerned with cosmetics anyway.

The IMSG retails at 389.95
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:20 AM   #3
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Jake, are you locked into this specific switch because of the patent, too?

What firm is doing your global patent work?
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:08 AM   #4
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Just the function of the switch is part of the patent, not that particular switch.
We have worked with a couple of different firms on the patent work, if you have ties in that community, please PM me.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:48 PM   #5
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If there diffuculties, perhaps you could change the top surface contour of the switch enough that it becomes your own design under your patented control while still retaining a fairly good integration with the 9X6 interiors. For example: you could flatten the peak and valley of the top surface relief. Not as nice but a possible option.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:50 PM   #6
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I do not have any direct experience with Porsche but I do have a lot of experience with Apple, another firm known for its excellence in design.

And if you want a long term legal battle, then go ahead and create a new design that is somewhat reminiscent of their design and call it your own. Apple will quickly issue legal threats, get court injunctions, and have your products impounded by US Customs until you either run out of money or just give up.

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Old 09-08-2011, 02:49 PM   #7
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..It's an non oem replacement switch for the seat heaters

There are plenty of other examples/manufactures. How do they do it? Check out a Laso water pump. Is a pretty close copy of the genuine Porsche one. Have your legal people research what is needed to be a non oem automotive supplier if needed.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:07 PM   #8
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I do not have any direct experience with Porsche but I do have a lot of experience with Apple, another firm known for its excellence in design.

And if you want a long term legal battle, then go ahead and create a new design that is somewhat reminiscent of their design and call it your own. Apple will quickly issue legal threats, get court injunctions, and have your products impounded by US Customs until you either run out of money or just give up.

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This is the reason we have utilized the Porsche switch..

This is a lot different than a water pump... This is a really sensitive topic...
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