Go Back   986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-05-2011, 11:47 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 276
Steering Wheel Shake at 70-80 mph?

I Just replaced all my shocks and drop links and both Tie Rods on the car.

When driving from 70-80 mph my steering wheel shakes a little but pretty fast back and fourth a very little distance.

If I grab the steering wheel firmly with both hands it seems like I can get the shaking to greatly reduce and almost stop...... then I let go and it comes back immediately.

Any Ideas on this???


Prior to all the suspension work the steering did shake sometimes but only intermediately.

My last wheel balance was last year at about 1k miles ago.

All the bushings on the control arms didnt look cracked or anything either.

Car has 64k miles.
dirkdiggler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 12:38 AM   #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: sw ohio
Posts: 253
Bent wheel? As in pothole.
jotoole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 03:44 AM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
Posts: 245
My car shook the wheel and rebalancing had no effect but it turned out the tire was cupping a little. New front tires fixed it for me.
Dale_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 03:49 AM   #4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,820
start by double checking everything you touched.
__________________
insite
'99 Boxster
3.4L Conversion

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...1/KMTGPR-1.jpg
insite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 07:29 AM   #5
Registered User
 
manolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 247
I have a similar issue and I got under the car and found both lower ball joint boots have cracks/tears in them. I suspect they have been that way a bit and the ball joints are toast. Iplan to install new lower control arms and hope that gets rid of it. I had the wheels checked and they weren't out of balance.
__________________
2003 Cayenne Turbo
manolo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 08:08 AM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bastrop, TX
Posts: 705
as someone that has chased down a shakeing that lasted 2+ years, I offer my lessons.

basically anything that rotates needs to be looked at. If the shake is rhythmic and gets faster with speed... it has to be a rotating mass issue.

if it never did it and then you messed with the springs and now it is doing it, I would look at it like something may be loose less likely something bent.

Did they knock off a wheel weight?
all bolts tight?
Spacers?

A ball joint or tie rod damage, it may shake but on and off and not rhythmicly. (ie- not rotating)

My issues turned out to be the spacers.
__________________
2002 S
Pedro rear stabilizer bar, CF strut braces, Maxspeed headers with 100 cell cats, Fabspeed cat bypass pipes, H&R springs with M030 setup, TRG rear links, EVO air intake, B&M Short shift kit, Raby IMS upgrade, Raby underdrive pulley
jhandy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 10:22 AM   #7
Autobahn Glanz
 
WhipE350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,282
Garage
I did all my shocks over Dec and in the end had to have an alignment...it may not fix the shaking, but you really should get one, I was very happy after mine, car was totally different. If you find a good Indy, while they are doing it they can check for anything being lose.
WhipE350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 10:28 AM   #8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 276
Whats the average cost for an alignment??
dirkdiggler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 06:58 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Gforrest2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 308
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirkdiggler
Whats the average cost for an alignment??
I'd like to know that too and can any shop do it? Like your local tire store that advertises $59 alignments or should you go to a Porsche specialist?
__________________
Glen
Gforrest2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 07:13 PM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bastrop, TX
Posts: 705
Dirk-
Reading the first post again, It really sounds like something is loose, because of what you said "by holding the wheel it seems to stop"
If it was a bent wheel, or rotor, or axle....you would not be able to fight it. My wheel spacers shook so strongly if you tried to hold the wheel hard, it would shake your shoulders.
try something simple......jack it up take each tire off, and check the axle nut torque, and put the wheel back on correctly torquing the studs.
I bet its either the axle nut or the wheels. Look for missing lead.

Also you should get the alignment specs and bring them to your shop. Brakecheck can align a porsche, but I doubt that they will know what settings to shoot for.

When I lowered mine, the dealer printed out for me target settings depending on how I wanted to drive it and how fast I wanted to replace the tires.

IIRC the choices he gave me where "factory, street/sport, track"

each choice used the tires progressively more. I chose track, and the car stuck to the road, but I went through two sets of tires in 15000 miles. The camber/toe was so aggressive that it wore out the inner shoulders leaving the outer edge 50% used.

I had it reset to factory values, and drive slower, and use much less rubber.
__________________
2002 S
Pedro rear stabilizer bar, CF strut braces, Maxspeed headers with 100 cell cats, Fabspeed cat bypass pipes, H&R springs with M030 setup, TRG rear links, EVO air intake, B&M Short shift kit, Raby IMS upgrade, Raby underdrive pulley

Last edited by jhandy; 05-06-2011 at 07:23 PM.
jhandy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 07:30 PM   #11
Autobahn Glanz
 
WhipE350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,282
Garage
I used Eurowerks in Charlotte NC, it was $180. I was impressed overall with their work, I watched the whole thing. It took a while to do so I thought the price was fair. They had an expensive setup just for doing the alignment.
WhipE350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2011, 01:51 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 276
$180 isnt bad

I guess I will take off each wheel and inspect everything again........ugghhhhh
dirkdiggler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2011, 05:22 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Johnny Danger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,809
Garage
Have you looked into road force balancing ? My experience has always been that dynamic balancing is simply not enough; especially when you getting into larger diameter wheels like 18 and 19 inch .
__________________
Don't worry I've got the microfilm.
Johnny Danger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2011, 06:46 AM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 191
I just received a flyer from my local Porsche dealer, Porsche of North Houston. They advertise a Wheel Alignment Special for $198.88. They say their regular price is $337.50.
Norminhouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2011, 10:39 AM   #15
pk2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tustin Ca.
Posts: 449
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norminhouston
I just received a flyer from my local Porsche dealer, Porsche of North Houston. They advertise a Wheel Alignment Special for $198.88. They say their regular price is $337.50.
Beware, Your alignment is cheap. Don't be surprised if they don't find $1.5k in parts and repair you need to finish the deal...guess what...you don't need it or them.

PK
__________________
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/163...58x6ir4.th.jpg
99 Supercharged 2.5L
pk2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2011, 12:24 PM   #16
kpm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Bowie Md.
Posts: 117
I know this sounds simplistic, but make sure your tire pressures are spot on. I had the same shake (between 73- 79 mph) and thought I would have to live with it.

The previous owner had spent a lot of money chasing the same shake, to no avail. I replaced the front tires and had a dynamic balance done and it helped a little but it would still show up now and then.

Back in March I brought the car out of storage and double cheked all systems and made sure the pressures were correct, and set out to take a short trip.

Watta ya know !! No more shake (except a little flat spot vibration). It's now shake free up to 110 mph.

Also make sure a belt hasn't twisted in one of your tires.

Good Luck !
kpm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2011, 12:40 PM   #17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 12
Have had similar shakes at same speed. New tires and an alignment did the trick. With your recent tire balance sounds like something in your mods. As others have states. Double check everything that was done. gl.
Klimo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page