05-28-2010, 07:30 AM
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Engine Surgeon
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
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Classic example of either a broken IMS drive chain, broken IMS timing chain paddle, or IMS bearing, (or all of the above).One of those possibilities has a preventive available that could have possibly kept this from occurring.
We get a good number of calls from owners with the mileage that you have, it is one of the sweet spots for failure. Sorry for your loss, this has been a week for failure, 7 callers have reported failures this week of some sort and I've had 4 emails of similar situations along with two cars being shipped to us with intermix issues...
They seem to come in herds.
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Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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05-28-2010, 07:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Texas
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So sorry to hear about the motor.
I have to ask, was your car sitting in storage over the winter up in Toronto?
Is it possible that sitting had an affect on oil getting into the IMS bearing?
Having recently purchased an '04 986 that now has 47k mi... hearing this makes me squirm.
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Fabspeed: Maxflo Mufflers, Headers with sportcats, Tips; Alpine & Infinity sound
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05-28-2010, 08:23 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby
Classic example of either a broken IMS drive chain, broken IMS timing chain paddle, or IMS bearing, (or all of the above).One of those possibilities has a preventive available that could have possibly kept this from occurring.
We get a good number of calls from owners with the mileage that you have, it is one of the sweet spots for failure. Sorry for your loss, this has been a week for failure, 7 callers have reported failures this week of some sort and I've had 4 emails of similar situations along with two cars being shipped to us with intermix issues...
They seem to come in herds.
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Speaking of which, Jake, I'm getting ready for an IMS and clutch/RMS for the fall (among other things). I'm having problems finding on your site, the cost for the IMS shipped. What's it going for for a 2.5 (99) these days?
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Jonny Wonder
1999 Porsche Boxster 5 Spd
Stock, with GAHH A5 Glass top.
Previous Toys:
2005 RX-8, RIP
1989 GTA, 5 Speed, Procharger Supercharger and 2 Core Intercooler, 1 3/4" headers, 3" Flomaster Exhaust, cat-delete, digital ignition, bigger fuel injectors
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05-28-2010, 09:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Hey Oaktown,
I live in the Bay area as well. Interested in doing what you're doing as well. Let me know if you'd wanna work together. I could meet you at your place with my car as well.
tran
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Originally Posted by Oaktown 986
Speaking of which, Jake, I'm getting ready for an IMS and clutch/RMS for the fall (among other things). I'm having problems finding on your site, the cost for the IMS shipped. What's it going for for a 2.5 (99) these days?
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Parts for sale: 4-spoke Steering wheel, air bag, and leather cover ($350 + shipping), Rear zipper storage bin ($100 + shipping), CDR-210 Factory OEM radio, casing, and keys ($100 + shipping), Hand brake handle and hand brake sensor ($50 + shipping), Manual factory leather shift knob ($Free + shipping)
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05-28-2010, 09:47 AM
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Engine Surgeon
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
Posts: 2,425
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Guys:
we have been so busy with development, engine builds and IMS procedures that we haven't been selling the individual bearing kits for the last few months or any other parts as well.. It was taking our focus away from our specialty; carrying out critical procedures. The other issue was the extreme questions and support that purchasers and shops alike were demanding during the IMS procedure, all that time made the sales of the bearings more of a liability to us than anything else.
I've been referring everyone to LN Engineering directly for the bearing kits, at least for now as I finish the updates to our property and expand operations into a 3rd building dedicated to manufacturing our components and finish up our backlog from the winter.
If we start selling the bearings again, I'll let you know. in the mean time we are kicking ass on IMSR procedures carried out under our roof, of course we provide the bearings for those procedures that we do here..
A word to the wise:
If you are considering a procedure during the fall you had better order the parts and schedule your procedure NOW.. You and EVERYONE ELSE that owns these cars wants to do the same thing. Due to that schedules and components in the fall will be in much more demand and you'll either have to wait or will be disappointed when we say "The schedule is booked". The economy hasn't impacted us at all, hell we are busier than we were when times were perfect!
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Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
Last edited by Jake Raby; 05-28-2010 at 09:51 AM.
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05-28-2010, 09:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tranlm
Hey Oaktown,
I live in the Bay area as well. Interested in doing what you're doing as well. Let me know if you'd wanna work together. I could meet you at your place with my car as well.
tran
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Right; well, today would be a great day to meet each other as well as an indy mechanic. I'm heading from the City at 2:30 to Oakland to 23rd where Bauer Repair is to have him check out my 99. Wanna meet up around 4ish there? I have to make a quick trip to my e. bay crib to pick up the car after I get done working...
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Jonny Wonder
1999 Porsche Boxster 5 Spd
Stock, with GAHH A5 Glass top.
Previous Toys:
2005 RX-8, RIP
1989 GTA, 5 Speed, Procharger Supercharger and 2 Core Intercooler, 1 3/4" headers, 3" Flomaster Exhaust, cat-delete, digital ignition, bigger fuel injectors
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05-28-2010, 09:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 91
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Moving our convo to PM.
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Originally Posted by Oaktown 986
Right; well, today would be a great day to meet each other as well as an indy mechanic. I'm heading from the City at 2:30 to Oakland to 23rd where Bauer Repair is to have him check out my 99. Wanna meet up around 4ish there? I have to make a quick trip to my e. bay crib to pick up the car after I get done working...
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Parts for sale: 4-spoke Steering wheel, air bag, and leather cover ($350 + shipping), Rear zipper storage bin ($100 + shipping), CDR-210 Factory OEM radio, casing, and keys ($100 + shipping), Hand brake handle and hand brake sensor ($50 + shipping), Manual factory leather shift knob ($Free + shipping)
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05-28-2010, 06:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NorCal
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... and this is why I have scheduled with a local LN Engineering listed dealer to install the new bearing retrofit with my new clutch and RMS next Wednesday before I start enjoying the new Boxster S I picked up for the summer...
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David - San Jose, CA
David - San Jose, CA
Current: 2010 Touareg V6 TDI, stock for now...
Current: 2000 Boxster S, stock for now...
Former: 2004 Porsche Cayenne Turbo... too many issues!
Former: 1999 996 C2, sorely missed
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05-30-2010, 01:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: austin
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I'm a dealer for LNE in Austin, Texas.
If you're in the Texas area and are considering the IMSR
or if you've suffered an engine failure and want to pursue
your options. We'd be happy to help you out,
Mike at lone star rpm dot com
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06-24-2010, 09:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 726
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do you know WHY Porsche agreed to foot half the bill?
you were well out of warranty... is this just something you think you were able to obtain because:
a) you knew someone
b) you threatened them with something
c) you were just so nice they felt sorry for you / sob story letter / phone call
OR
are they starting to treat these types of failures differently? your car was "newer" than many of the older 986 here...not sure they would do the same for a 2000... ??
I'm curious..if you know..what it was about your situation that got them to help out financially with it?
glad to hear you have the car back on the road!
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Boxster mods I've added: Rear speaker kit, Painted Calipers, Painted Bumperettes, Painted Center Console, 987 Shifter Assembly, 3 Spoke Steering Wheel, Clear side markers, 03+ rear lights, de-snorkeled.
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