02-05-2010, 10:14 AM
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So, I phoned Porsche today and they told me that it never snows in the UK!
Well not quite but I'm getting a bit pissed off with the tyre approval system they force upon us.
I want some "All Season Tyres" as it keeps getting below zero degrees where I live, snows a fair bit and the N rated summer tyres are like driving with plastics wheels.
It's fact that below 7 degrees the compound in a summer tyre hardens more so than normal and doesn't get warm at all. This = very dangerous.
So, I phone my local Porsche centre and say "Service please......Hi, can you tell me what All Season tyres I can purchase for my Boxster?" The response was an "Errrrrr" so I explained that there are tyres for summer known as Ultra Performance tyres, there are tyres for Winter and there are All Season Tyres that attempt to do both.
The lady from services, although was very nice said she would have to call me back.
She called me back and said there are none. You can not get anything other than N rated summer tyres, there are no all season tyres available in the UK at all.
That rattles me. I thought safety would be something that Porsche take seriously.
when the lady said "is there anything else I can help you with" I said "How busy is the body shop this time of year?"
All in a joking way of course!
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02-05-2010, 10:25 AM
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're too hung up on "N" rated tires. I have a feeling if Porsche recommended owners should jump off a cliff some would do it.
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02-05-2010, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you're too hung up on "N" rated tires. I have a feeling if Porsche recommended owners should jump off a cliff some would do it. 
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I know, and agree but the difficult thing is trying to get any reputable garage to fit non N rated tyres to a Porsche. Most will not do it as they fear you wont be insured and they become liable somehow.
Which is BS as I phoned my insurance company up and they said they dont care about the tyres as long as I don't change the wheels.
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02-05-2010, 10:26 AM
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Either she was lying or did not know what she was talking about. Almost every Porsche dealer offers "winter snow tires."
You can go to any regular tire shop and look for All weather tires that will fit your rims.
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02-05-2010, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayersExpress
Either she was lying or did not know what she was talking about. Almost every Porsche dealer offers "winter snow tires."
You can go to any regular tire shop and look for All weather tires that will fit your rims. 
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Not necessarily true in UK.
Remember these are the same folks who have security cameras on every corner.
All for the "common good" of course.
It may be that if a manufacturer doesn't "approve" tires for use on your car, the tire (excuse me, "tyre") dealer may not be allowed to install them.
Their is a lot about liberty we Americans take for granted, and should not.
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02-05-2010, 11:39 AM
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Hmmmm. I never thought about that since I only buy summer tires. Just checked he TSB for approved tires and nothing for all season or winter.
I'll check for a separate TSB for all season later.
Tire Rack showed one Pirelli Winter 240 SnowSport as "OE Approved." Not on the TSB I have.
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02-05-2010, 11:59 AM
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Well there is a TSB for Winter Tires and Chains under 987-2. And a Pirelli is on it as a 240 Sottozero Serie II. There are some others if anybody wants them.
The TSB is for 987s as of 09. Did not see one except for summer under 986.
Edit -- Oops, found it. And it differs from the 987.
TSB are viewable (but not printable or copyable) to contributing members at RennTech.org.
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Last edited by 70Sixter; 02-05-2010 at 12:07 PM.
Reason: change info
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02-05-2010, 12:28 PM
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Don't waste your time and $$$ on all season tyres. They're a compromise and err on the side of high performance rather than winter traction. Buy a dedicaated set of winter tyres and wheels and drive with peace of mind.
I speak from experience. Punkin currently has her Blizzaks on.
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02-05-2010, 12:21 PM
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I contacted a few manufactures about this and asked what N rated all season tyres/tires they sell in the UK and Continental said none as they dont have an EC?? rating on the tyre or something.
Bloody UK!
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