Flat 6 Innovations saved my motor

[Motobob]

Can you remind me of the cost? Bob

[jhandy]

He saved my car as well. I was not as close to death as yours, but now I can drive it with out waiting for the hammer to fall.


Extended warrenty even payed for it.

[Dragonwind]

I had Musante Motorsports in CT put the bearing in mine. At 87k it was still in okay shape with just the early signs of play but possibly would have given out in another 10-15k perhaps. Now I don't worry about it and tell other folks to get theirs done with their clutch job!

[Jake Raby]

For the procedure to be carried out at our facility the charges total 3,500.00 as a flat rate, no matter how simple or difficult your particular extraction may be for 6 speed cars. Tiptronic cars vary rate wise.

This includes:
- Pre- procedure chassis dyno evaluation
- IMS Bearing retrofit kit with installation
- Updated OE RMS with installation
- Full OE Clutch kit with release bearing, clutch disc and pressure plate
- Engine Oil service with 110.00 credit toward engine oil of the customer's choice.
- Post- procedure Chassis Dyno evaluation
- FSI door decal stating the serial number of the bearing retrofitted for proof the procedure has been carried out. We also log each engine number and VIN in our database
- Post procedure test drive, usually 80-100 miles to ensure no leaks are present and that the engine performs as expected. (I do these personally)

In some instances the work can be done cheaper by other shops, but others charge more because they hit "problems". We don't do this because we mutually developed this procedure with LN Engineering and know it better than anyone.

We keep it simple with one flat rate charge, of course we can apply more updates while we have your car on premises and there are a few options we are adding as more flat rate services, like lifter updates, variocam wear component replacement, timing chain replacement and tensioner replacements.

The cheapest I have seen a shop do this work was 2,000.00 but that didn't include a new clutch kit. I will not do this procedure without replacing the clutch arrangement because they are all worn out or very close. In all of 2009 we didn't pull a single clutch that was acceptable to reuse.

[dallison]

wow, that pricing isn't bad at all for what you get. It's much cheaper than engine replacement.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by dallison

wow, that pricing isn't bad at all for what you get. It's much cheaper than engine replacement.

I expected the first response to be "Damn thats expensive!"

[Boxster33]

I agree it's a good price. Here in Toronto I have an estimate of $1400 just for the RMS. I have already messaged Jake that when I'm ready to do it I will bring my car to him. For 3500 (right now the Canadian dollar is almost at Par as the US) I get the RMS, IMS retrofit and a new clutch. With Jake I know that when I get my car back there is no doubt that the job was done correctly. That's more than I can say for the dealers.

My Car is 2000 Boxster S (Speed Yellow) in Mint condition with 34,000 Km which worries me as it's low mileage for older vehicle. I bought the car last spring with my eyes open knowing about all the potential issues and with a slight RMS leak.

No regrets so far. Love the car! Big difference than driving my Mint 1990 Crx Si.

[dallison]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

I expected the first response to be "Damn thats expensive!"

lol, i'm an optimist. while i don't have that kind of cabbage to throw into my boxster at teh moment, i see the value of the service performed. Some people go with the lowest price and some pay more b/c they know the job will get done right. .
There are certain things i pay more for and this would be one of em.



When you break it down, most would pay anywhere from 1500-2k for clutch and rms with parts included. I would assume most ims updates would require a bit more work and time involved so 500-1k.

So the normal total cost at some indies would be 2-3k, and for peace of mind 3500 is worth it to pretty much guarantee preventing ims failure.

[Sputter]

I'd say that's a very comfortable price. It's one that I wouldn't drag my feet over.

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

For the procedure to be carried out at our facility the charges total 3,500.00 as a flat rate, no matter how simple or difficult your particular extraction may be for 6 speed cars. Tiptronic cars vary rate wise.

This includes:
- Pre- procedure chassis dyno evaluation
- IMS Bearing retrofit kit with installation
- Updated OE RMS with installation
- Full OE Clutch kit with release bearing, clutch disc and pressure plate
- Engine Oil service with 110.00 credit toward engine oil of the customer's choice.
- Post- procedure Chassis Dyno evaluation
- FSI door decal stating the serial number of the bearing retrofitted for proof the procedure has been carried out. We also log each engine number and VIN in our database
- Post procedure test drive, usually 80-100 miles to ensure no leaks are present and that the engine performs as expected. (I do these personally)

In some instances the work can be done cheaper by other shops, but others charge more because they hit "problems". We don't do this because we mutually developed this procedure with LN Engineering and know it better than anyone.

We keep it simple with one flat rate charge, of course we can apply more updates while we have your car on premises and there are a few options we are adding as more flat rate services, like lifter updates, variocam wear component replacement, timing chain replacement and tensioner replacements.

The cheapest I have seen a shop do this work was 2,000.00 but that didn't include a new clutch kit. I will not do this procedure without replacing the clutch arrangement because they are all worn out or very close. In all of 2009 we didn't pull a single clutch that was acceptable to reuse.

[Banana S]

Just curious... What's the price to do the IMS Upgrade as opposed to the IMS Retrofit?

[gwoodburn]

Originally Posted by sppmo

"I decided to take my 2000 Boxster S to Jake to have the IMS retrofit performed. There were no symptoms of any kind that I was having IMS issues, I just wanted a little peace of mind. When the IMS was pulled, Jake found that it was already in failure mode and would have soon caused the complete failure of my motor."

Did an Independent third party verify the fact that the bearing was in failure mode?

Here you are again, questioning everything Jake does. What have you contributed to the development of anything Porsche? What are you trying to accomplish? Stop being a douche

[Banana S]

Originally Posted by Banana S

Just curious... What's the price to do the IMS Upgrade as opposed to the IMS Retrofit?

Bump to possibly get my question answered, since otherwise it's likely to get lost in the Troll Chow.