Dispeling M96 engine rumors - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

cvhs18472 · 01-14-2010, 04:53 AM

When first got my 98 Boxster w/tip I had no idea about the IMS failures even though I reseaeched Boxsters for awhile. For the first couple of months I worried about the engine taking a s**t. I then realized that the reason I purchased the car was to drive like hell. I haven't worried since. If and when the engine goes south I will send it to Jake to have it rebuilt . I like my car and with the cost of improvements which I have made it will probably be a wash with money. I like having cars for a long time and getting to know them. To me the Box is worth getting to know. Going through life worrying about everything will kill you as quickly as being stupid and it certainly no fun. ED

Lil bastard · 01-14-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cvhs18472

When first got my 98 Boxster w/tip I had no idea about the IMS failures even though I reseaeched Boxsters for awhile. For the first couple of months I worried about the engine taking a s**t. I then realized that the reason I purchased the car was to drive like hell. I haven't worried since. If and when the engine goes south I will send it to Jake to have it rebuilt . I like my car and with the cost of improvements which I have made it will probably be a wash with money. I like having cars for a long time and getting to know them. To me the Box is worth getting to know. Going through life worrying about everything will kill you as quickly as being stupid and it certainly no fun. ED

IMS is not a common failure on the early cars, and less problematic with the Tip vs Manual cars, in fact it's quite rare. It didn't become a significant issue until Porsche modified their original design. The least of my worries with my '99 is IMS.

Cheers!

Jake Raby · 01-14-2010, 06:22 PM

Its always the vendor.... the horrible, money stealing, vendor. We are all a bunch of lying bastards that don't care if your car even runs. Thats the way people make us out to be and I am absolutely sick of it. Done with it.

If it weren't for a couple of really motivated vendors the IMS retrofit would not be in question, because it would not be possible and engines would not be getting saved from the scrap yard weekly.. You would not have a choice.

Keep complaining, at least we can pull the damn bearing- Porsche says thats impossible.

Your welcome.

coreseller · 01-14-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Its always the vendor.... the horrible, money stealing, vendor. We are all a bunch of lying bastards that don't care if your car even runs. Thats the way people make us out to be and I am absolutely sick of it. Done with it.

If it weren't for a couple of really motivated vendors the IMS retrofit would not be in question, because it would not be possible and engines would not be getting saved from the scrap yard weekly.. You would not have a choice.

Keep complaining, at least we can pull the damn bearing- Porsche says thats impossible.

Your welcome.

Whole heartedly agree with your sentiments. You, Pedro, Jay (who was offering research) who offer answers too often get crap thrown at you when you try to offer solutions to known issues. Don't get too discouraged guys, there's plenty of us in the background watching and reading without posting............

jbs986 · 01-14-2010, 07:24 PM

Hi I am new to this board and this is My first post so please go easy on Me.

I bought My 99 Boxster 4 months ago, It is my first Porsche, I have been diving Corvettes for 17 years and I have always wanted to own a Porsche one day and now I do, love My 99 Box.

Before I bought My Box, I found this Board when I was doing My homework before buying My First Porsche and I am glad I found it, It helped Me in buying My Box.

I am glad that there are guys like Jake Raby out there that offer a retofit IMS and other Mods for the M96, So thanks Jake and others that post helpful info. on this board.

It has made owning My Porsche an enjoyable experience.

Thanks again.

Dragonwind · 01-15-2010, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Its always the vendor.... the horrible, money stealing, vendor. We are all a bunch of lying bastards that don't care if your car even runs. Thats the way people make us out to be and I am absolutely sick of it. Done with it.

Um...I though a bunch of us were defending you...

Jake Raby · 01-15-2010, 05:02 AM

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Um...I though a bunch of us were defending you...

Unfortunately not enough have been... The free information is over- if people are going to ******************** moan and complain I'll at least charge for what we share. This way at least we'll get something for putting up with all the crap.

Charles and I pour our entire lives into engine development and its pretty easy to get sick of people who make us out to be the bad guy.

Brucelee · 01-15-2010, 05:10 AM

There will always be deniers of this issue. I see this over on the BMW boards regarding persistent defects in their designs as well.

I think it makes the buyers feel a little less insecure about an issue that is really there. Whatever.

I think the regulars know what Jakes is all about. I think we all appreciate his time and attention.

Hang in there Jake, the folks who matter know what you are about.

landrovered · 01-15-2010, 05:22 AM

Jake,

I have re-read the thread and it appears to me that there is more going on here than just some porsche mechanic offering an alternative view from yours.

To me it looks like there is something else going on in your life for this thread to illicit the above "I'll just take my football and go home" response. It does not add up.

I am the one that said that things like your "holiday IMS failure count" might be causing undue distress to boxster owner so if you have a beef perhaps I am the one you need to be speaking to.

You are passionate about your work, that is a good thing. You have a financial dog in the fight. There is nothing wrong with that. It is transparent and that is the way it should be. I applaud the work you have done and would be inclined to utilize your services in the future.

But...

Expecting unwavering gratitude from forum users is just dumb and it makes you look foolish when you go off because of a thread as vanilla as this one. You know that trying to get a consensus on the internet is like trying to herd cats.

My advice (its free so take it for what it is worth) is you should cowboy up and when someone offers a different view of the subject than yours, don't take it personally. Debate the issues and realize that it is not an idictment of all that you stand for nor is is a review of your company or your work.

I have not read anything but sterling comments on you and your company.

Jake Raby · 01-15-2010, 05:59 AM

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To me it looks like there is something else going on in your life for this thread to illicit the above "I'll just take my football and go home" response. It does not add up.

Nothing else is going on in my life, these engines and the business I have built ARE my life. Consider the fact that there are currently posts on three other boards from vendor haters that are comparable to this one and it'll add up fairly quickly. I've been working with VW and Porsche enthusiasts since the age of 13 when I had my first paying customer for an engine build. Through all those years I've never experienced a group of people that thought vendors were so horrible, money grubbing, lying bastards.

Who gives a damn if I have a financial dog in the fight.. Trust that I work for every damn penny we generate here and all things totaled I probably end up making two friggin dollars an hour.

This week I saved a clients engine that was more than likely MINUTES away from failure, we didn't know it and he didn't know it but he came by and saw it apart first hand when we extracted his smoked bearing. I kept FIFTEEN THOUSAND dollars in his bank account, I wonder what he thinks about vendors?

Pour your heart and soul into something to have all of that questioned by people that would not know what an IMS bearing was if it fell from the sky and landed on their keyboard and you'd be just as pissed off as I am.

Dragonwind · 01-15-2010, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Its always the vendor.... the horrible, money stealing, vendor. We are all a bunch of lying bastards that don't care if your car even runs. Thats the way people make us out to be and I am absolutely sick of it. Done with it.

Um...I though a bunch of us were defending you...

+1 on on your feelings though as this gets out of hand sometimes.

Chris

jmatta · 01-15-2010, 04:06 AM

If it weren't for Jake and Charles, I would still be in the dark about potential problems with my Box and have few options should something go wrong. Instead, I have been proactively updating my engine with LN parts and will install the IMS update when an appropriate opportunity arises.

I applaud Jake and Charles' work and am sickened by the non-believers that jump on someone's bandwagon after only two posts and no credibility.

Please continue with your input and valuable updates...my car truly appreciates it!