Need Help! Royaly Screwed!!

[cvhs18472]

My daughters friend is a little older than you but graduated from Villanova with a 4.0 in Engineering,went to work for GE with a sizeable bonus, fullfilled his contract and is now at Drexel working on his PHD in Electro Chemical Engineering. He doesn't drive a Porsche because he probably didn't start working till he was 15 because he was a NCAA swimmer. He now coaches swimming. He probably has been pulled over more times than you and didn't think he deserved any of them. He whines for a week when he does get pulled over. I was with him once and he should have been pulled over. Brains do not preclude stupidity. Most older people realize that a person is the sum of all his good and bad points, youth assumes that one good point ( fair grades) makes all other things dissapear. Stop Whinning. JMHO Ed

[kiosko]

You guys are incredible! Do you really believe that most cops are clean? I hunt and fish with a club of around 35 guys of which the majority are cops. Let me tell you, the sickest individuals are them. They brag about their abuses and using the law to their benefit. In other words they exaggerate in order to bust individuals. Their envy of money and nice cars is incredible. They feel that the world owes them something and that people that have worked hard to get were they are all trust fund babies.

Get a good lawyer and sue the heck out of them. Maybe he will loose his job and have to go to school or like most of these clowns end up in Burger King. I'm tired of everyone living with the rose colored glasses on. The truth is that the entire country is becoming a fascist state were cops are free to abuse their power.

I know what your replies will be so save your time and don't bother. Continue living in Mayberry with aunt bee. You still believe that we are living in the same country were right and wrong was the real law of the land.

By the way, no tickets for me since I was 25 and driving a modified Miata. They do target you when you are young and have a sports car. And yes, they do have quotas to make. The easiest ones to bring up to a judge are the young guys with sports cars because the reaction is predictable. No one is innocent until proven guilty any more!

Originally Posted by kiosko

Do you really believe that most cops are clean?

yes. For the past 5 years I have been a volunteer deputy for my town. I spend 16 hours per week with officers of the law.

The majority of them got into the field because they enjoy helping people. Like any field, there are bad apples - but my experience with them has shown me that these guys and gals are a cut above.

kiosko, I think you should do some "ride alongs" if your town has them...it'll help you understand the men and women in blue a little better.

[Daniel R]

Well said Fred.

I must admit, I have been pulled over more times than I care to remember since I have had a license. Some well deserved, others not, sometimes fined, other times not.

I have received fines from some of the nicest, pleasant and patient officers in the force, and I have also come across some absolute bastards. Just like any group of people, some are nice and others not.

To suggest that all police are corrupt is ridiculous and is perhaps the weak defense of someone who spends far too much time on the wrong side of the law. We also must not have blind faith in these people either, as the force has it's fair share of bad apples.

Just last night I was stopped for a "random" check, only because I was driving through a low socio-economic area in a Porsche. It was an inconvenience I didn't need, however it is how it was done that upset me. The police drove very close behind me, and used their high beam which dazzled me with the reflection in the mirror. I could not see it was a police car, and they were just trying to bait me to drive fast and then they would have an excuse to write a ticket. Instead I slowed down, suspecting it was a police car, and did not give them an opportunity to push me into speeding. Then again, perhaps it is the benefit of experience that I didn't play into their hands.

By the same token, I have had good experiences with traffic police, even when they have resulted in fines that were deserved.

Just remember they are crafty buggers sometimes, and the key to keeping out of trouble is more about playing the game and outsmarting the police rather than having to be an ultra conservative driver. At the end of the day, we have nice cars so why not enjoy them by driving the way Dr Porsche intended.

[coreseller]

When I was in my late teens I had long hair, a beard and rode a motorcycle. I was pulled over multiple times without good reason (they usually claimed they wanted to to check to make sure I had the motorcycle endorsement) but frankly it didn't bother me. I was always polite and gave the cop my license with a smile, never once did I get a ticket and they usually reciprocated my demeanor. You more often than not get what you give.

[eightsandaces]

Interesting reading for sure, Mr. Express, just curious, do you have a powerful stereo and if so do you play it loud? How bout the exhaust, is it loud? Something you are doing is catching the attention of law enforcement, now assuming you "don the halo" you say you do behind the wheel, there must be some other activity other than a nice machine that is making you stick out; you need to identify it and eradicate it.

[23109VC]

I have to chime in on this one.

I am a criminal attorney - 10+ years of experience. What I am about to say is NOT legal advice - I don't know your exact situation, nor do I wor in YOUR jurisdiction, so I am NOT an expert in the laws that apply to YOU in YOUR state - so I am just speaking in "general" terms about driving offenses. Every case is different.

First, I'm not going to cast stones and accuse you of being a speeder. When I was 19, I had my fair share of citations for speeding...not as many as you apparently have had.... but I also didn't have a Porsche when I was your age either...

In terms of what a person in your situation should do - Hire an attorney. THEY can give you solid legal advice as to what you should do. You can explain your situation to them, in total confidence, and they can best advise you how to proceed. There are lawyers that specialize in traffic cases and DMV hearings. If your privilege was suspended - you have the ability to request a hearing with your local DMV and contest the suspension.

If you can't afford to hire an attorney to actually represent you, you could just go in for a consultation and get advice. Someone in your area would likely meeet with you for a reasonable fee and advise you - they would know YOUR local rules/regs/laws.

What is true here in CA may not be the case in your state. A local professional will know what is best for YOU in your area.

Just a word of caution, however, if you truly are suspended, you should VERY cautious about driving until you get this resolved. here in CA, driving on a suspended license is a misdemeanor. In CA, if you are cited for driving on a suspended license, the police CAN tow and IMPOUND your car. the impound can be for a MONTH. That means the car is HELD in impound for 30 days, you are NOT permitted to retrieve it - and impound fees RACK UP into the thousands while your car sits there. It becomes very expensive just to get your car back from teh tow yard. Plus, the new offense carries more points than the average speeding ticket - resulting in even more suspensions of your privilege to drive. Given your propensity for being pulled over - driving while you are suspended sounds like a BAD idea as you will just dig yourself into an even deeper hole.

Just speaking in terms of "bang for the buck" however, If the suspension was only a month - honestly, by the time you hire someone, they schedule a hearing, and you get it resolved, your suspension may already be over, so you have to assess the "value" vs the "cost" for going that route. It may simply not be worth it.


Get good legal advice in your area....and try to slow down.

[SoCalKen]

The record you see is different than the one the judge has in front of him/her when you are in the courthouse. The judge gets the full unedited list. You have "a tough row to hoe" as the saying goes. If it were the same cop or the same 2 cops stopping you but if it's 20 different cops, you are going to have a hard time getting anyone to think 20 different officers are all harassing you. It's very likley some of them were routine stops because you do look suspicious. However for sure some are deserved. I know that when I go from my F-150 to my 986, if I'm not taking turns at 1.5-2 times the speed I'd drive the truck at it just feels slow. If I take a 35 MPH corner at 45-50 it's still so far below the limits of the car I dont even consider that "spirited driving". What you think you're driving and what you're actually driving could be 2 different things. when i drive my truck (dd) my kids always ask me why I drive so slow. When I drive my 986 I have fun that's what I bought it for. Having said that I'm selective where I have my fun which is why I've not had any tickets/accidents in the box. My son has a prerunner truck for a daily driver. He has been pulled over and ticketed 2 times but both were when he was in my stock clean F-150. The first he tried to tell me I was going with the flow and not the fastest. My reaction "yeah right". The second was different and I helped him get it dismissed when it smelt fishy. If he got pulled over even 10 times, as a parent I'd have done somehing earlier. If I really believed it was just the car, a change in the dd would be in order.
Ken

[Brucelee]

OK, lets remember that this is the Internet. All that is posted may not be entirely true or is simply the poster's version of what he wants to write.

Yet, the issue here is simple. 20 times or 1, this guy has this one issue to resolve.

I think that all are suggesting that if he has ANY chance of a positive outcome, he needs a lawyer.

The rest is just like poking a dying animal.

It is not pretty anyway you cut it.