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Old 10-27-2009, 09:54 AM   #1
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The most fun about your last idea

Is we'd get to read about MarcW's 4k+ trip to Cleveland GA and back..he always manages to have an adventure.

I don't disagree with your "the owners face choices" discussion. Heck, with 56k on my '01, I do too. I guess I'm just a risk taker in that I turned down a 3 year extended warranty when I bought 4 years ago and made out. And I'm situated that, if I wanted to get a engine after this one failed, I could. Plus I have multiple vehicles and little real need for any one. Thus I have a different risk profile than many.

I just don't want people to think that this fix is the perfect solution until it is proven. After all, Porsche changed the design several times thinking that each change was the final perfect solution..and none of them were. So there is still a chance that this one isn't either.

And there are probably a couple of dozen other failure points so, even if the IMS is perfect, the engine can still fail. How many fixes and which ones will statistically make economic sense to be applied to the engine?

For example, we don't know how thousands of dry starts (after 2 days of not starting the car the oil has drained away from the IMS bearing which is now oiled by the crankcase oil (and not by the grease of the original)) will wear. Or how Minnesota winters or Arizona summers..or 3 months of storage...or many of the other varying conditions will have an effect on the bearing.

So if anyone else wants to spend the $ as a preventative measure against something that may or may not happen, I'm not criticizing them..rather thanking them for increasing the testing sample size.

I'm just saying the statistical probability of that being the right decision isn't as obvious to me yet as some are making it out to be.

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Old 10-27-2009, 01:00 PM   #2
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Marc W's trip to GA

Yeah, I figure if he puts crash bars on the front of the Boxster and scented it with the stuff that keeps deer away, he'd have a good chance of getting there in one piece without the help of a flatbed truck.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:27 PM   #3
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He will have to find a good source for

Volvo repellent too!!!
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:42 PM   #4
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I wish there was "catastrophic" insurance for cars like there is for health insurance, something that would only kick in if the engine cratered (and had been properly maintained). I can afford to replace a $3k part... But a whole new engine. Then again, most other cars, the engine is a $3k part.

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Old 10-27-2009, 05:14 PM   #5
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Is their anyone here that drives their car year round and more than 9500 miles a year that has experienced an IMS failure?
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:37 AM   #6
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The easiest and cheapest insurance is to stop using Mobil 1 piss water in your engine and change the oil more often. I like Shell Rotella 5-40 synthetic.
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The easiest and cheapest insurance is to stop using Mobil 1 piss water in your engine and change the oil more often. I like Shell Rotella 5-40 synthetic.
Shell Rotella 5-40 works good in diesel applications.

Works weak in a gas engine.

Its great that we can voice opinions, but if someone has an oil related failure due to our opinion it is not great.

For average everyday use, stick with an approved oil for your engine. You will lessen your chances of an oil related failure.
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The easiest and cheapest insurance is to stop using Mobil 1 piss water in your engine and change the oil more often. I like Shell Rotella 5-40 synthetic.

Don't feed the troll.....
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