Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-09-2009, 01:04 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NJ/NY
Posts: 6
Boxster S with a Salvage Title

Hello,

I am new to the Porsche world, looking to buy my first Porsche.
I found a 2001 Boxster S with 75k miles that I like with a salvage title. The owner is asking 11.5k. I probably can get him down another 1k. The car was salvaged because of theft. Apparently, the top was cut into, and they had to replace the whole top.

Just wanted to get an opinion on what you guys think of buying a car with a salvaged title. The car seems to be in very good condition, obviously i would have a ppi done on the car. Do you think this car is priced right? Ive seen Boxster S here in Cali listed for $15k-20k.

Would I have a problems registering this car, or putting full insurance coverage on the car.?
Thanks.

vinas1970 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:09 PM   #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 137
Thumbs down

I think you are answering your own questions...
__________________
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/4...c84611da_m.jpg
Induction howl is easily worth the cost of admission...
2001 Boxster S
Arctic Silver /Black interior
Desnorkled then REsnorkled (planning on Revo flash & prob B&B Exhaust)
mylamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:12 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 1,675
I can't imagine a damaged top would cause the car to have a salvage title (less than 6% of the vehicle value?); must be more to the story.
__________________
JGM
2002 Boxster S
1973 911 Green FrankenMeanie
PCA DE Instructor circa '95
jmatta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:36 PM   #4
Registered User
 
Dave S.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 317
Kind of reminds me of one of those carfax ads where the car was underwater in a flood and the ad reads "new interior".

There's going to be more to that story than you are hearing today. I wouldn't touch it.
__________________
Dave S.
2003 Boxster S
Dave S. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:39 PM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: kansas
Posts: 447
Garage
The rule of thumb here in KS is a car with a salvage title usually brings about 1/2 normal value. If you could get it for under 10k, you'd probably be doing ok. Keep in mind though, you WILL have a hard time selling it and forget about ever being able to trade it in. Also, I don't know the Cali laws or insurance policies. I have a friend with a salvage titled car that they use as a beater. His insurance company would not put full coverage ins. on it. Have you done a carfax on it? Sometimes they'll give details of an accident or damage.

good luck
sean
SeanZ4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:47 PM   #6
Registered User
 
husker boxster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,869
If you do your due diligence and it checks out to your satisfaction, you better then consider how long you plan to keep this particular car. If you can't keep it for 4 yrs, for whatever reason, you better pass. Trying to resell a salvage title car shortly after you purchase it will be impossible unless you want to take a huge bath. Prospective buyers will wonder why you're selling it so soon and will probably shy away figuring there's something wrong with it (even if there's nothing wrong). If you plan to keep it for a while and it checks out OK, then there's no reason not to buy it.

However, it's still a buyer's mkt and you should be able to find some lower mileage, clean titled cars for an additional $5-6K. You don't have to buy the first one you see. Boxsters aren't rare.

Good luck with your pursuit.
__________________
GPRPCA Chief Driving Instructor
2008 Boxster S Limited Edition #005
2008 Cayman S Sport - Signal Green
1989 928 S4 5 spd - black
1987 928 S4 - Granite Green Metallic (Felsengrun)
husker boxster is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:07 PM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Southern New jersey
Posts: 1,054
Is Tennessee an area to beware of "flood" cars? I saw an '06S, 30K miles, adv. for $32.500. That seem a bit too low to be true.
stephen wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:23 PM   #8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Where the Sewer Meets the Sea, CA. USA
Posts: 2,695
Send a message via MSN to CJ_Boxster
If you decide to go with the S, ask the dealership that performs the PPI to check for signs of accident damage. If there are signs of an accident and you see a batch of new suspension parts on one side of the car, dont buy it.
__________________
--Proud Boxster Owner/Tech,

Carlos J Cazares

FastForward Performance
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...er/newsig1.jpg
CJ_Boxster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 04:34 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 115
I've heard that salge title cars have no real value. Meaning if it gets stolen, the insurance company could get away with only giving token value. I'm not sure this is true but it has kept me from even considering anything with a salvage tile - regardless of how well it may have been repaired.
Ofishbein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 05:51 PM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 691
The good news is that if you find a problem, Boxsters are easy and inexpensive to fix...

An eight year old Boxster with 75K miles will need work. If it was well cared for, it might still need a lot of things done (standard maintenance and repairs). An 8 year old with 75K miles with a salvage title?

Honestly, I'm not sure I'd take it if they gave it to me for free.

In my opinion, forget it.
__________________
SOLD - 2002 Boxster S - PSM, Litronics, De-ambered, Bird Bike Rack, Hardtop, RMS leak...
fatmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 06:08 PM   #11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Arvada, CO
Posts: 229
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ_Boxster
If you decide to go with the S, ask the dealership that performs the PPI to check for signs of accident damage. If there are signs of an accident and you see a batch of new suspension parts on one side of the car, dont buy it.
Words of wisdom, there.

I was looking at an '01 Boxster S in New Mexico back in early February, and I had pulled up a CarFax report on it, before heading down. The report showed that there was an accident reported back in '04 on the car in Wisconsin, which was far away from the owner's state of Arizona.

The car fax report showed that after that accident, it was still used, and had various parts replaced over the following years. In fact, after the accident, it had 60k more miles added to it. So I figured that if that many more miles were added to the car, the damage must have been fixed properly.

When I actually got to see the car, it looked fine from 50 feet.
Once I got up close and personal, it went down hill from there.

The hood, the right front fender, and the passenger door were all replaced.
They took the build sticker from the hood, and badly glued it to the new replacement hood.
The door that was replaced was badly painted, and the paint was transferring off of the door on to the rubber seals.
The front bumper was not properly reinstalled, and was drooping more on the right side of the car than on the left.

Then I actually took the car for a test drive.
To say that the car was in poor shape would be kind.

The shifter was sloppy, and it popped out of gear several times when my friend was driving it.
The top screached and screamed as you opened it, and I was afraid it was going to break during the test drive.
The steering was crap, and off center, and extremely heavy.
The brake pads were recently replaced, but they must have been the cheapest pieces of crap they could find, because the brakes felt like they did absolutely nothing when I stepped on the brakes.
The motor mount was shot, and so was the suspension.

The only thing that felt decent on the car was the engine.

Between the damage, and the over all condition of the car, I put an entry into the CarFax report for that car. Someone has bought that POS, unfortunately. Oddly enough, the other two Boxster's on their lot are still there, unsold. One had a mostly dead battery, and they refused to charge the battery so that I could take a look at the car. The other one was a tiptronic, and I wasn't interested in an auto.

So yes, always look for damage on cars you are buying, new or used.
You never know what happened to that car before it got to that car lot.

BC.
__________________
Its not how fast you go, or how expensive your toys are.
Its all about how big your smile is at the end of the day that truly matters.

'98 Silver Boxster, '08 Ducati 848, '89 Honda Hawk GT, '89 Honda Pacific Coast
Bladecutter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Brucelee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 8,083
Be afraid, be very afraid.

__________________
Rich Belloff

Brucelee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2009, 11:11 PM   #13
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MN
Posts: 90
If it checks out and you can save a few $$$ and are going to keep it for a while go for it ,I did ,I bought a salvage title 98 box three summers ago and have had great luck with it ,and here in MN if a car is ten years or older they clear the salvage off the title so now it reads clear
rd400rz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 09:40 AM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: orange county, ca
Posts: 248
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinas1970
Hello,

I am new to the Porsche world, looking to buy my first Porsche.
I found a 2001 Boxster S with 75k miles that I like with a salvage title. The owner is asking 11.5k. .

In this economy, you can find a NON Salvaged 01 S around the same price, mileage. This is too steep of a price. It is a buyers market out there, take time and research
spine911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 03:56 PM   #15
Registered User
 
jcb986's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,266
It will bite you in the end

Salvage general means that this was rebuilt from a major hit. It cost to much to repair compared to the wholesale cost the insurance company is going to pay. Plus a little extra for low miles, how clean it is, etc. A fix it guy buys it a special auction for parts or rebuilders. Basically you just don't know how it is going to do over time after the repair. Bought cars like this and rebuilt them and sold em at auction or private owners who wanted a low mileage car at very good price.
jcb986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 04:52 PM   #16
Registered User
 
Brucelee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 8,083
The unibody design of the Box seems to disinvite a damage based rebuild.
__________________
Rich Belloff

Brucelee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 07:12 PM   #17
Porsche "Purist"
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,123
Garage
I have bought salvage vehicles and have reconstructed them, but I usually bought cars that were totaled due to engine or interior fires.

I have done a couple of flood cars one of which I drove for years.

Stay away from cars with unibody damage. Fenders and bumper skins are no big deal.
__________________
1998 Boxster with 7.8 DME, 2005 3.6 liter/325 hp, Variocam Plus, 996 Instrument panel
2001 Boxster original owner. I installed used motor at 89k.
1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
Owned and repaired Porsches since 1974. Porsche: It's not driving, it's therapy.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 09:25 PM   #18
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 350
I picked up my 2000 boxster s for 12k. Clean title and runs great except grinding in 2nd gear occasionally. You can find a better deal. I wouldn't go for salvage. It will most likely cause big hassles down the road.
Viper5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009, 10:04 PM   #19
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 402
In my opinion, if you are under a budget I suggest getting a regular Boxster (not an S) with a good clean title. You will get 95% of the fun, and without all the worry of having a car that might have a million things wrong with it.

Do that PPI and check if there are major issues, my dad got a salvaged Nissan Altima years back, and it's had so many problems with it I could almost call it a Mini Cooper.
Lordblood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009, 05:09 AM   #20
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,999
Caveat emptor !!!

Frodo is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page