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Old 04-10-2009, 07:50 AM   #1
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:32 AM   #2
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The new Evora (due next year) is designed to seat 99% of Americans, at least in the front seats. It is a 2+2. I think the web page said up to 6'3" comfortably. It seemed like a great car. Hard to tell from only company publicity. Anyone hear pro/con about it, other than from Lotus? I know it will have another Toyota engine.

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Old 04-10-2009, 10:10 AM   #3
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The new Evora (due next year) is designed to seat 99% of Americans, at least in the front seats. It is a 2+2. I think the web page said up to 6'3" comfortably. It seemed like a great car. Hard to tell from only company publicity. Anyone hear pro/con about it, other than from Lotus? I know it will have another Toyota engine.

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Old 04-10-2009, 11:51 AM   #4
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lotus-Elise-WE-FINANCE-2005-LOTUS-ELISE-ROADSTER-6-SPD-LEATHER-16-WHEELS-15K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ116481QQihZ022QQite mZ350187680556QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ht_22748wt_1 310



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2005
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Similar price points on the 05's. I have not heard much about the Elise's reliability here in the US, but since so few people drive them regularly, I don't know if they've racked up enough miles to garner complaints. They do look great, though...

Actually saw a freaking Tesla last week driving downtown. I didn't even know they were for sale here yet.
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If I were to go with one of these I would have to get a exige S.
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i didn't know Camrys could go 170 mph if they can please correct me
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i didn't know Camrys could go 170 mph if they can please correct me


On an engine standpoint take a look at the numbers: (info. per Wikipedia)
This does not consider body weight, aerodynamics...etc..etc..

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3.2L 194 kW (264 PS; 260 hp)***

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***260hp vs. 276hp: thats quite a difference don't you think, eh
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You can't judge a cars top speed by its horsepower alone. Like you said, leaving body weight (doesn't effect top speed much) and aerodynamics out is just part of it. There are other things to consider such as gear ratios (transmission and final drive) which I think would play an equally large role and little things such as roll resistance.

I had a Camaro SS a few years back that had over 330hp, but couldn't go 170 mph...
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You can't judge a cars top speed by its horsepower alone. Like you said, leaving body weight (doesn't effect top speed much)

I had a Camaro SS a few years back that had over 330hp, but couldn't go 170 mph...

Didnt i just said "on a purely engine standpoint" on my original post.
That DOES NOT include other variables such as weight, aerodynamics, gear ratios, roll resistance , driving techniques...etc..etc...

Weight doesn't effect top speed much? I guess that 500lbs+ weight diference between the Celica, and the Elise is not a big factor at all (same identical engines) ; and how about the hulking weight of the Camaros??

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Old 04-15-2009, 07:36 AM   #12
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i didn't know Camrys could go 170 mph if they can please correct me

A Camry can easily go 170mph, just drop it off a really high cliff.
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It's just a mid-engine camry.
Oh dear my dad's Camry is so soft and body roll-ish that Lotus would pretty much ruin their name if they tried making something like that!

Or maybe putting the engine in the middle can make any car a fast hard racer? (Bedford Rascal woo hoo!)
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