6 point harness

[mdex]

Originally Posted by Sboxin

Racing harnesses do not belong on stock Porsche seats.
Racing harnesses on race seats are good - IF -- and only if you also use a HANS type neck restraint - Ask Dale's widow and son.

If you take a car to the track that has standard 3 point belts and air bags this may/will/should protect you in a crash -- Yes, the race seat and harness and HANS may/will/should protect you better - but this will depend on the exact type of crash you have.

The track organizers are trying to help us be more safe on the track -- but lets face it -- the track is a very dangerous place. I know personally 3 drivers who have gone into the wall at 100MPH in DE/TT cars with full seats and harnesses and HANS -- they broke a rib and are very very sore afterward but no lasting results (hopefully)
or broken necks. My son now has a 911 track prepared car with cage, fire system, electrical shut off, Halo seat, 6 point harness, and fire suit, gloves and shoes --- all just for Time Trial. How safe can you be on the track---probability tells us the more you are exposed the higher the risk --- just like Craps, eh?

Flame suit on --- fire away

Take care,
Ed

PS: I have a MOMO seat and BK Rollbar available if you are interested...

I am in total agreement with you... if you are going to a 6 point harness you should have a HANS type device as well as proper roll over protection (cage). I have heard some discussions around the idea that you are better off without a helmet in a street car on the track unless you have a HANS device.

I put a set of RECARO's in the car for the track season, but stick with the 3 point belts as I have the airbags in the car active, and haven't put a full cage in so I prefer to be able to duck a bit if the car were to go over. Even without the 6 point belts I don't move around in the seats, they are far to tight for that to happen!

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Originally Posted by mdex

I am in total agreement with you... if you are going to a 6 point harness you should have a HANS type device as well as proper roll over protection (cage). I have heard some discussions around the idea that you are better off without a helmet in a street car on the track unless you have a HANS device.

I put a set of RECARO's in the car for the track season, but stick with the 3 point belts as I have the airbags in the car active, and haven't put a full cage in so I prefer to be able to duck a bit if the car were to go over. Even without the 6 point belts I don't move around in the seats, they are far to tight for that to happen!

I Agree. A three point allows some torso movement to duck and protect your neck in a crash or rollover. Once you are locked in with a 6pt harness your neck becomes the weak link.