6 point harness

[ChrisZang]

Hi jmatta,

thanks for the tip & link that was EXACTLY what I was looking for, so no drilling holes
About the needed sub-bar: I am totally with you: This is not racing or competitive driving. It is DE/TT. I need a seat / harness combination which holds me better in my seat. For example: There is this fast right hander after the "fish hook" in Buttonwillow where I need to upshift to 3rd in mid-turn but the g-forces squeeze me against the door, so it's a real challenge to change gears.
As the choice is either 3-point or 6-point with all the clubs I drive, I need to get a 6-point even though IMHO a 4-point would do as well. Before anyone cries out here:
If a 3-point is an accepted safety device then a 4-point should safe as well, but by-laws are by-laws and I need to follow them.
And yes I'll need a seat with the holes for the shoulder and anti-sub harness, see here: aftermarket race seat

Thanks for all the tips & advise

[jmatta]

Chris,

Keep in mind when looking at seats, you do not need a sub belt hole if you choose to run a six point harness. The sub belts connect at the lap belt points, come thru the side of the seat and you sit on them, drawing the lock point to the safety latch.

Please do not consider a four point...there is nothing to keep your body from diving under the belts in a contact situation. A stock three point just doesn't hold you, as you've already mentioned. I haven't seen one individual who can hold on and steer at the same time (remember, light steering inputs are very important).


PCA Driving Instructor last 10 Years

[renzop]

While DEs are safer than real road racing, having a sub-par restraint setup is incredibly foolish. The occasional 2 car collision happens. The 100mph wall hit happens in DEs too. The primary reason to have belts in the car is to protect you when that accident happens. Your future widow will not appreciate the cost savings that you made by not installing a proper belt system (or maybe she will because it will now be her money!)

[jmatta]

Exactly why I do not recommend running with either a three or four point system.