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bigb · 03-06-2009, 09:13 PM

Many thanks for your detailed explanation - that clarified the confusion I had

stephen wilson · 03-07-2009, 03:51 AM

OK, if someone can afford to smoke $80 cigars, they can afford to pay the $40 tax!

Brucelee · 03-07-2009, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stephen wilson

OK, if someone can afford to smoke $80 cigars, they can afford to pay the $40 tax!

You're point being ...........?

stephen wilson · 03-07-2009, 07:18 AM

My point is, the tax isn't as high as these intentionally inflated prices would seem to indicate. I normally stay out of political discussions, so I guess I'll stick to that policy!
Steve

Brucelee · 03-07-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stephen wilson

My point is, the tax isn't as high as these intentionally inflated prices would seem to indicate. I normally stay out of political discussions, so I guess I'll stick to that policy!
Steve

Well, I oppose taxes on basic moral principle. To me, I can see the value of the cigar and choose to pay or not pay. On the tax, I have no choice and I can't see any value.

Having said that, I don't smoke!

Still, I don't see any reason to stick it to folks just because they have the dough. Using that logic, anyone with less, can take from anyone who has more.

I think that is called robbery.

stephen wilson · 03-07-2009, 08:02 AM

I see your point. I do smoke Cigars occasionally. It suppose use taxes would be better if spread across all "non-essential" goods, not just the "bad" ones. Hell, I think a "flat tax" is a good idea, combined with use taxes. What's more fair then a percentage of what you earn? Most of us work hard, but some are compensated much better for it.

Lil bastard · 03-07-2009, 08:38 AM

The universal inevitabilities are Death and Taxes, no question about that.

But, we're not talking about a New tax here, just a disproportionate Tax Increase.

Seems to me that the 'New Guy's' priorities are a little messed up. Tax increases, Abortion, Stem Cell research, Food Stamp increases, Peace Treaties w/ N. Korea (or otherwise playing right into their hands) IMHO, shouldn't necessarily be #1 on the Runway when the Dow is below 7k and unemployment is the worst since the Great Depression.

But, that's a political discussion and my only purpose was to give some of our guys a heads-up about a significant price increase coming soon so they can maybe save a few bucks.

Brucelee · 03-07-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by stephen wilson

I see your point. I do smoke Cigars occasionally. It suppose use taxes would be better if spread across all "non-essential" goods, not just the "bad" ones. Hell, I think a "flat tax" is a good idea, combined with use taxes. What's more fair then a percentage of what you earn? Most of us work hard, but some are compensated much better for it.

Fair has nothing to do with the US Tax system. The folks who take the most from the govt normally pay in little or nothing. So, fariness is in the eye of the beholder.

The great shell game of the govt is to never have anyone question them about what they are up to. If you have a strong stomach, just look at how the feds spending always goes up, irrespective of what else happens in the world.

My basic question is, WHY IS THAT?

Just a thought.