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Old 11-01-2008, 09:35 PM   #1
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the saga continues

To remind everyone: '98 Boxster, won't crank, won't start.

After a battery that had been completely dead for a month was replaced, the car won't crank. (Hood had been locked, and power had to be fed in through lighter socket to get power to unlock hood)

The history:

Battery: replaced AND charged for 24 hours.
Ignition switch: replaced.
Clutch switch: checked, appears to be going in and out and clicking accordingly.
Fuses: all appear good.
Relays: seem okay. switched out relay with same #, still no crank.
Immobilizer: opened box under seat; no obvious sign of any damage of any sort.
Starter: tested, spins fast.
Solenoid/Starter: Cranks engine hard and fast.
Analyzer readout: no problem codes.
Key: appears good; "capsule" inside appears fine.

What am I missing ??


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Old 11-02-2008, 06:39 AM   #2
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Have you checked the clutch switch with a VOM to see if it is actually opening and closing the circuit?
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Have you checked the clutch switch with a VOM to see if it is actually opening and closing the circuit?

I will check it today. Is it possible to bypass this switch ?


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Old 11-02-2008, 11:28 AM   #4
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I will check it today. Is it possible to bypass this switch ?


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Yes. You can just disconnect the leads to the switch and short them by running a wire between them. It's actually better for the engine to not press the clutch in while starting anyway so I've got my switch bypassed on all my cars.

Just make sure you don't have the car in gear when you start it.

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Old 11-02-2008, 11:34 AM   #5
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Yes. You can just disconnect the leads to the switch and short them by running a wire between them. It's actually better for the engine to not press the clutch in while starting anyway so I've got my switch bypassed on all my cars.

Just make sure you don't have the car in gear when you start it.

Okay, I'm going to bypass. If this is not my problem, is there anything else you can think of? I'm running out of ideas. I'm wondering if my immobilizer is shutting me down and I just don't see any damage. Perhaps after sitting so long w/o any battery juice, the system no longer recognizes my key?

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Okay, I'm going to bypass. If this is not my problem, is there anything else you can think of? I'm running out of ideas. I'm wondering if my immobilizer is shutting me down and I just don't see any damage. Perhaps after sitting so long w/o any battery juice, the system no longer recognizes my key?

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Have you tried bypassing the ignition and running power directly to the starter? Easy test with a set of jumper cables.
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:45 AM   #7
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Have you tried bypassing the ignition and running power directly to the starter? Easy test with a set of jumper cables.

I connected the posts at the starter/solenoid and the engine cranked like a champ.

The history:

Battery: replaced AND charged for 24 hours.
Ignition switch: replaced.
Clutch switch: checked, appears to be going in and out and clicking accordingly.
Fuses: all appear good.
Relays: seem okay. switched out relay with same #, still no crank.
Immobilizer: opened box under seat; no obvious sign of any damage of any sort.
Starter: tested, spins fast.
Solenoid/Starter: Cranks engine hard and fast.
Analyzer readout: no problem codes.
Key: appears good; "capsule" inside appears fine.
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:45 PM   #8
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Yes. You can just disconnect the leads to the switch and short them by running a wire between them. It's actually better for the engine to not press the clutch in while starting anyway so I've got my switch bypassed on all my cars.
How's that work for you in the winter?
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How's that work for you in the winter?
I don't follow the question.
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:10 PM   #10
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It appears there are two switches on the clutch pedal. I'm assuming one is for Cruise Control, one is for starter. Of course, i have no idea which is which. I'm hoping Paul or Blue can answer this question.



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Old 11-02-2008, 03:16 PM   #11
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I don't follow the question.
Here in Wisconsin when it's -20 or colder, no one would ever try to start a manual shift car without kicking in the clutch first.
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