A Solara tried to race me...
 

First off, I do not race... in any way shape or form. Time to time I do like to corner fast, etc etc.
Anyway, there's a expressway entry on my way to work that has a two lane left turn at a stop light. Immediately after the left turn the lanes merge. Okay, so I'm in the left of the two lanes (first at the light) and the Solara is in the right lane. It's a white car with blacked out windows... he's gearing up and getting ready to time the light. The light turns green and his tires squeal... I just take off a little bit faster than normal. He's trying to out run, and out corner me from the outside, with a Solara... You all know what happened... I waived to him through the back window as I entered the twisty turns to the expressway.
Normally I would not do something like that... but some people need to learn respect of the Porsche brand.

should have saved your gas

I generally let someone jump in front, but he has to be serious about it. Last thing I need is someone cutting me off, then slowing down. Man, I hate that.

But if someone really wants to go fast and cut off a porsche, I'll let him if he's willing to punch it as hard as possible. It's fun watching them struggle when my foot is sitting over half a pedal of instant torque.

Was some immature kid who did not know better.

I probably would've done the same thing. :D

Not too long ago a guy in a Totota MR2 (the one that looks like a boxster) tried to race me from a stoplight. I did the same thing you did. LOL

I probably would have done the same thing. I don't street race, but there is no law against accelerating quickly. So depending on my mood I may just hang back, or leave them in my dust. :cheers:

You can be cited for 'excessive acceleration' in some states.

About learning to respect the Porsche brand... you do realize that a current model Camry V6 (hell, even a Rav4) is neck and neck with base 986 as far as acceleration is concerned, right? :)

From time to time this happens to me too. Usually V6 Mustangs, but virtually the same scenario.

I'm always thinking, "Does the person want to see if their car is as fast as mine, or are they just needling me to nail it and provide a quick show of speed and performance?"

Porsches are just not that great off the line unless you've got this little badge on the back of your car...

I was on the highway once, in a disappearing left lane, and sped up to get in front and over, and a big honking F350 gassed it to 'race' me. It was funny. I had plenty of lane left so it wasn't malicious. I just think its funny how truck lovers LOVE their trucks. It was like a mansion dueling with a dog house.

True. You guys do realize that Boxsters certainly aren't the fastest cars out there, right ? Now cornering and handling, that's a different story.

That's what I was getting at... it's an immediate left turn. you might have 5' before you need to start turning. So basically the Boxster is one of the best cars for it. Like I said I do not race at all. I like to corner. This just happens to be a stoplight at a corner with two lane turning. If I see the guy again, which I'm sure I will, I'll act the part then just go really slow. The best thing about my commute is that I'm not the fastest or the slowest on the road. I average 80mph... there's guys out there that will run you over if you are only going 80mph. Its crazy. The cops are NEVER out during the morning or afternoon rush. I think they know traffice moves better... and most of us on the roads at that time are semi-professional drivers/commuters. you should see the number of cops out there during off times... 11am-2pm... weekends. I came home early today for a sick kid and I saw three cops one was on a bike and clocking people. I knew better though because it was off hours. I was only going 70mph.

This is true (and one of the reasons I like the car)... but in a 'turn the wheel a little and floor' it on ramp situation, you'd be surprised what you have trouble keeping up with. Throw in some actual fun twisties, then yeah. Boxster all the way.

Maybe the guy was just having a little fun - who knows. Maybe he wasn't trying to prove anything. Maybe he thought it would be funny to provoke you like that – I joked like that with a few muscle cars when I drove a beat-up old Mirage. If you didn't see the guy's face through the blacked out windows, you might not have read his intentions correctly.

I dusted a Boxster S in my Mazda 6 Sedan on an empty expresway once. Suprised the hell out of the guy driving the "respected" Porsche brand as he tried like mad to catch me. Porsches make terrible dragsters. He learned quickly to respect the Zoom Zoom Zoom. ;)

Even beat the pants off a bunch of Boxsters this past weekend in the Mazda 6 at an AX and couple of them were on race tires. ...I dont know, Boxsters seem fairly slow to me? Only Boxster that really gave me trouble was a fast 3.4 conversion car on big fat DOT race tires. I was on skinny street tires in a 3600 lb sedan.

My tip to you is to not race well made Japanese cars as you'll likely lose or break your car trying to keep up.

Ummm, what? Hmmm, Mazda 6... oh, is this a knock knock joke

Okay, who's there?

He probably meant a Mazdaspeed6. To be honest its got 274 HP and 280 lb-ft of torque at 3000 RPM and a 0-60 time of 5.7 seconds. Not too shaby for an economical and reliable family sedan.

I remember the second day after my wife drove her new BMW 335XI of the lot. She got beat by surprise by some young punk in a Mazdaspeed6 (she wasn't really trying to race him) and was so embarassed that she got mad at me for not suggesting that she get an M3!

In the old school 986's it's all about gear choice, stay in fourth at normal 55 highway speed and the acceleration is pretty damn good. Occasionally my local detective cousin will ride along and encourage me to pass the racing punk perps for a closer look, who am I to disregard a direct request from the local law enforcement?

Yeah its a MazdaSpeed 6 and its a torque monster! There arent many cars that can beat my MS6 off the line in 1st gear. With a couple cheap bolt ons they make over 300 HP. Power comes on very low around 2800 RPM and pulls with freight train like torque until about 6000 RPM. Many stockish MS6's pulling low 13 quarter mile times and slightly modified cars getting into 12's.

I had custom double adjustable Koni racing tubes made into coilovers for the car but kept ride height near stock so it looks like a regular sedan. Its the ultimate sleeper. It will out pull most cars in low RPM's and it handles almost as good as my stock Boxster. I'm always amazed at how well it does in AX being a 3650 lb car. Theres something devilishly fun about beating Porsches on race tires in a family sedan on street tires.

Considering the car is front wheel drive I question that statement. :rolleyes:

If someone tries to race me, I just laugh, turn up my Steven Ray Vaughan, and roll off.... :dance:

It is AWD... and I disagree with the off-the-line performance. AWD tends to hinder off the line performance, to a point. Recall the DSM twins of the mid 90s- the FWD Laser was quicker to 60 than the AWD Talon. Both had the same 4G63t or whatever. Grip can be a bad thing sometimes... plus, AWD cars tend to be boring to drive (unless you have an obscene amount of power and a good chassis). :D

Anyway, I've driven an MS6, and I'm of the opinion that the 2.3 is mismatched. It fits the MS3 pretty damn well, but it felt wheezy and too rubber-bandy in power delivery (nice descriptor, huh?) in the bigger 6. I remember seeing them on Mazda lots with heavy discounts... they couldn't even give them away. Needed a ballsier V6 instead.

More to the point, if the driver in the MS6 against the Boxster took off leisurely, there is no way it'd beat a Boxster. Too laggy, as evidenced by the fact that a rolling 5-60 start takes a full 1.5 seconds longer than it does from a dig.

Street racing is of course, not appropriate.

:D

I'm with you. If I wanted to prove something, it wouldn't be in a Boxster, or on the street.

I let them go, I think it deflates them, or they have a good day bragging on how they beat a Porsche. I think it upsets them more if you refuse to go.

'Course, they're driving home in their mazda, mustang, civic or what have you, while I'm the one driving the Porsche.

:cheers:

Are you sure you drove a MS6? There is absolutely no turbo lag with the 2.3 MZR DISI Turbo. They make huge low end power. ...more than any weazy Japanese V6. Actually more than some American V8's! Agree on huge discounts! Mazda did terrible job marketing the car as it wasnt as boy racer as the EVO or STi and it wasnt as refined as the V6 regular Mazda 6. The car was a steal I got MS6 GT Model with full leather, heated seats, stability control, traction control, HID headlights, and tons of other options that listed fo $31K MSRP for $25K.

Yeah they are slow off the line! LOL! Just check out these videos.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/mustang-GT-2005-VS-6-2006_59977.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/mazdaspeed-6-VS-corvette_72478.htm

I routinely leave Corvettes and Shelby 500GT's off the line at the strip. They dont catch me until halfway through second gear. Then its all over. If the MS6 motor was weasy with turbo lag I wouldnt place as high in AX events either. HUGE torque and AWD are the cars key advantage. There arent many Porsches that make 280 ft/lbs at 3000 RPM.

Finally there's real life and what you read in magazines. So hope everyone has learned when a humble looking Japanese sedan pulls up next to you and revs its engine you just need to turn up your stereo and give up any hope of being a boy or girl racer because your doors will be blown off by some punk not worth wasting your time on. ;)

Don't want to drive a Mazda
 

First some disclaimers; I'm a newbie, Don't race, Have a decent size ego but not from my cars.....no interest in driving a Mazda, for any reason.

Crash

I didn't mean for this to get turned into a Mazda commercial.

I simply said that the Solara was embarrassed. And I was not "racing" him.

Again, this was a turn with acceleration. I find it hard to believe that there's a lot of Japanese cars that could out handle a Boxster in the turns. If so it's probbaly because of a better driver.

Everyone know's Boxsters are not straight runners. If so we'd all buy vette's, cobra's etc.

BTW, I drove the Passat today b/c it's supposed to rain. I didn't see the Solara either.

OUCH! :p

I love reading how the mazda owner claiming it's some kind of revelations that his 4 door mazda can beat our little boxsters.

He has no idea of what's out there.

very sad!!! :(

Indeed. Sadly I see this kind of crap all the time on SOCAL highways. These kids think they are supermen and we are all just spectators.

I drove a Mazdaspeed 3 earlier this year and it was quite the pocket rocket. Even with its torque management programming in 1st and 2nd there was noticeable torque steer, although not as bad as an Accord V6 Coupe. If I recall correctly from the car mags, the engine in the 3 made a little less HP than in the 6 but equal torque? I also recall 0-60 was slightly slower than a Boxster S despite the bigger hp and torque numbers of the Mazda. Also recall that the 3's acceleration for 0-60 and 0-100 were better than the MS6's. As far as skid pad numbers, the Mazdas were in the high .8s, whereas an '05 S was doing .99. Except for a GTR, I don't think there are many Japanese cars that will hang in a curve with a Box. Of course Grant's stoplight sleeper Boxster slayer has custom suspension bits.

I think mazda has some interesting ECU work in their fwd turbo cars (so does dodge with the srt-4) which limits power in 1st and 2nd gear.

Aside from that, I'm happy with the power my box puts out. Its not amazing from a stand still, but it gets the job done. I was driving to the Poconos with my brother (and our luggage) and we raced a guy in an e46 M3 (he was alone) and we kept up nose to nose with him from 65 to 130 (the gearing and aerodynamics helped i suppose).

I don't usually race (the m3 guy had been driving "with" us for quite some time), but on the way down from NY to williamsburg VA on the Richmond beltway I "raced" some kid in a civic si right before my exit. I did it more to amuse him than myself.

Felt like a I did some public service, but racing can be really dangerous. A lot of these guys try to initiate a race in extremely inappropriate places (i.e. high vehicle and pedestrian traffic). As long as your safe about it, it can be kinda fun me thinks :cheers:

Yup. Street racing is for little boys whose nads haven't dropped yet. Take it to the track.

Please note that when I said the MS6 beat my wifes 335XI it was because she had no intention of racing him on the street. The kid was going flat out while she was just driving normally (yeah she likes speed). No way the MSd could have taken her car if she tried. The 335 is no slouch either as its got 300 lb-ft of torque coming on at 1500 RPM! Compared to my boxster its got way more power but it really is a sleeper car. Not that much fun to drive in my opinion but very refined. As for owning a Mazda rocket? I'll pass :rolleyes:

Why do these kind of threads always start arguments ? Drive what you like, enjoy it and who cares what others think about your choice of car. I love my boxster, not interested in street racing whatsoever and if others drivers don't like it, so what.... Japanese make outstanding cars as does Porsche, they are just different. If someone offered me a free Honda Accord and Boxster I would accept both of them with a HUGE smile on my face. Peace.

I've had more huge trucks run me down on the interstate than I care to count.

I knew a judge who had a jaguar convertible (not sure of the model). He had some young kids come up next to him in some rice burner suped up POS and rev the engine, so he just took off and left them in the dust. He was like, "I don't know what they did to their car, but mine just has a big fast engine, period." So yeah, they got their asses whipped by a 50+ year old judge.

What's wrong with 50 ??

nothing, but I'm sure when you are 18 you don't want to have someone old as your dad beat you racing.

sometimes I step back and realize that this is a 986 forum which puts the likes of me in the 987 in the minority....

BUT...after reading this thread.....if anyone can confuse the handling of a Mazda Sedan and label it as just as good as the boxster....you all need to trade up to the 987 :D

My car will never be confused for anything else...nothing drives like it...of course I don't have the honor of spinning lambos but nothing under 100K I've been in feels remotely as good....I've spent sometime in the new Mercedes C350...not even close....I doubt the mazda 6 speed turbo supercharged awd compressor gtx rs sedan would come close :D

Uh...ok... :rolleyes: Be even better with an S model though right? Oh...sorry. :D