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Old 11-28-2007, 05:25 AM   #1
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What's the best brake fluid to use? ATE Blue?
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:17 AM   #2
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What's the best brake fluid to use? ATE Blue?
ATE blue is what I used and I'm very happy. I think they also offer an ATE gold so that way you can alternate colors. This way you know when the old stuff is flushed out.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:58 AM   #3
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For a normal brake fluid change you do not need a PST2 if you have traction control or PSM. You do need it however if you are changing the fluid because those components have been replaced.

The manuals also say you need to hold down the clutch pedal when bleeding the clutch. You don't need to do this unless you have just replaced the master cylinder.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:32 AM   #4
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For a normal brake fluid change you do not need a PST2 if you have traction control or PSM. You do need it however if you are changing the fluid because those components have been replaced.

The manuals also say you need to hold down the clutch pedal when bleeding the clutch. You don't need to do this unless you have just replaced the master cylinder.
Tool Pants, does this hold true for the 987 too? I thought you needed the PST2 for the 987 Boxster.
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PIWIS is the replacement for the PST2 and is needed for the 2005 up cars.

I am not up on the 987/997. I did speak to Peter once about bleeding the brakes on the newer cars and he said he did use the PIWIS. I do not remember the details as it will be a while before the newer cars show up at our work on cars days. Peter said it was a 997 but it might have had PASM or something like that.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:24 AM   #6
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For a normal brake fluid change you do not need a PST2 if you have traction control or PSM. You do need it however if you are changing the fluid because those components have been replaced.

The manuals also say you need to hold down the clutch pedal when bleeding the clutch. You don't need to do this unless you have just replaced the master cylinder.

Can you elaborate on how you do bleed the clutch then TP? I am doing this soon and need all assistence.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:00 AM   #7
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Can you elaborate on how you do bleed the clutch then TP? I am doing this soon and need all assistence.
Tony, a little OT here, but on the 987 the brake fluid and the clutch fluid are a shared system, so both get done at the same time. Not sure about the 986 Boxster.

I just had mine done last month. The dealership charged about $150.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:10 AM   #8
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Tony, a little OT here, but on the 987 the brake fluid and the clutch fluid are a shared system, so both get done at the same time. Not sure about the 986 Boxster.
Same on a 986. The clutch bleed valve can be difficult to locate the first time ... blinkwatt posted a very helpful photo.

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Old 11-29-2007, 10:06 AM   #9
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For a normal brake fluid change you do not need a PST2 if you have traction control or PSM. You do need it however if you are changing the fluid because those components have been replaced.
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I did my research on this particular relationship and found similar statements. Unless one is also replacing master cylinder or other major component thank you for your confirmation. I am back to saving $150.00!

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Old 11-29-2007, 10:18 AM   #10
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I did my research on this particular relationship and found similar statements. Unless one is also replacing master cylinder or other major component thank you for your confirmation. I am back to saving $150.00!

FTD, of course you will save $150 minus the true value of your time, therefore somewhat significantly less than $150! Satisfaction for sure. I understand that.

I only say this because people usually forget the value of their time when doing DIY projects.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:25 AM   #11
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Thanks guys, I'm aware of the shared system, I was specifically asking this: If you don't hold the clutch pedal down during bleed, what do you do? Is it pumped till one is sure new fluid exits the clutch bleeder? I have a saved pic of where it is, when I'm done with the styling mods currently underway, I'll be purchasing a motive and working on the brakes & clutch.
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I only say this because people usually forget the value of their time when doing DIY projects.
I can't agree with that more!
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With a motive you do not need to hold the clutch pedal down. The air pressure from the motive will force the fluid through the clutch circuit and out the bleed nipple on the slave cylinder.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:08 AM   #14
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FTD, of course you will save $150 minus the true value of your time, therefore somewhat significantly less than $150! Satisfaction for sure. I understand that.

I only say this because people usually forget the value of their time when doing DIY projects.

A very good and important point. Thanks!!

My time is worth money. A frequent consideration in all things - home maintenance, car maintenance, you name it. Some things are fun, some things are a chore, and some things are just out of my league. I think a brake flush is an OK chore, especially with a helping hand to speed things along. Replacing clutch parts is misery and worth paying someone else.
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