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Old 10-09-2007, 01:17 PM   #1
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3.4L Transplant email

Hey everyone. I was just kicking around this idea for when my car needs a new engine someday. Seems a little pricy but it's essentially a new car afterwards. Here's the email correspondance:

To: info@rufautocentre.com
Subject: 2001 986 Boxster conversion inquiry



I am very interested in doing a 3.4L swap from your company. My questions are:
1. How much for the kit?
2. How much for the labor?
3. Do I need to bring my boxster there? (I live in California)
4. Will it be smog legal here and if not, what do I have to do to make it so?
5. What kind of milage am I looking at city/fwy?
5. I want to spank my buddy's 350Z. Is this possible?

Thank you for your time.

From: info@rufautocentre.com
Subject: 2001 986 Boxster conversion inquiry

Mr. Tan,

Thank you for contacting RUF in the USA. The 3.4 liter engine conversion is available for the 2000-2001 Boxster S. The price is $29,950 installed. These are estimated numbers from our RUF Boxster. You would average 19 to 20mpg. It would have 310hp, 171mph top speed, zero to sixty in 5.1 seconds, to 100 in 12.4 seconds, which should be enough to leave your buddy's 350Z in your rear view mirror. All RUF conversions must be installed by a RUF technician, which would require that you ship your car to our facility in Dallas.

The 3.4 conversion is smog legal in California.

Please contact me with any other questions or if you would like to schedule a conversion.



Thanks!

RUF Auto Centre
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:25 PM   #2
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$30k is WAYYYYYYYYYYY too much to pay. If your serious about it, talk to one of the folks on Renntech or Rennlist who do that stuff on the weekends,I'm sure they could do it for less than $12k.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:32 PM   #3
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REALLY? 12K? That's not too bad!

@blink: Hey man sorry to hear about your car. Hope you get another soon.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:32 PM   #4
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Wait a minute!

Yes, $30K is a lot of money, but RUF includes the following in thier price:

1) a new crate 3.4L 996 Carrera engine
2) a new 996 flywheel
3) a new 996 clutch
4) Complete RUF exhaust (headers, sport cats and muffler)
5) RUF air intake
6) RUF tuned ECU
7) All necessary wiring, hardware and labor.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:36 PM   #5
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To be honest I wouldn't even think about a 3.4L unless you have a 97-99 Boxster. If you gonna drop some $ on your 00'+ e-gas might as well put in a 3.6L. A guy on Renntech is dropping a 3.6L with a X-51 kit on it into his Boxster.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:49 PM   #6
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Holy Crap! It's essentially a brand new car! I wonder how much a 3.6L would be? Hehe... 310HP is nice but 3505HP is nicer! Haha!

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Wait a minute!

Yes, $30K is a lot of money, but RUF includes the following in thier price:

1) a new crate 3.4L 996 Carrera engine
2) a new 996 flywheel
3) a new 996 clutch
4) Complete RUF exhaust (headers, sport cats and muffler)
5) RUF air intake
6) RUF tuned ECU
7) All necessary wiring, hardware and labor.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:15 PM   #7
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The #'s he posted seem pretty weak. A 280hp 987 S has almost identical 0-60 and 0-100 times. I wonder if they are just being conservative. 30k seems like a steep entry fee to show up your friend in his 350Z...hell that is what he paid for his whole car! Just think, if you do the conversion and smoke him, all he has to do is slap on a 5k turbo or supercharger and his 450 hp Z will smoke your RUF porsche.
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The #'s he posted seem pretty weak. A 280hp 987 S has almost identical 0-60 and 0-100 times. I wonder if they are just being conservative. 30k seems like a steep entry fee to show up your friend in his 350Z...hell that is what he paid for his whole car! Just think, if you do the conversion and smoke him, all he has to do is slap on a 5k turbo or supercharger and his 450 hp Z will smoke your RUF porsche.
Ya you're right, but he's cheap and he'll never do that, so I win! It's all for fun eh?Hehe...
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:26 PM   #9
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The #'s he posted seem pretty weak. A 280hp 987 S has almost identical 0-60 and 0-100 times. I wonder if they are just being conservative. 30k seems like a steep entry fee to show up your friend in his 350Z...hell that is what he paid for his whole car! Just think, if you do the conversion and smoke him, all he has to do is slap on a 5k turbo or supercharger and his 450 hp Z will smoke your RUF porsche.

Dollar per dollar, you'll lose against a 350z, or pretty much anything of that type. If I got spanked by a 30k conversion putting down less than 450hp, I'b be laughing at the guy who dropped 30k on the swap.


The turbowerx TT kit is a better bargain if it's proven to hold together.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:18 AM   #10
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Conrad,
You don't need to spend money to spank your buddy in the Z. Just find a nice tight track and get him in the turns. Those things weigh 3500lbs and corner like boats.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:26 AM   #11
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I'd love to have a 3.6 in mine but for that money I think I'd sell the car and use all the funds to buy a Corvette. Better yet, keep the car and use the money to buy a Big Dog K-9..... LOL

Is that price for a conversion or a swap? I'm curious how much a crate 3.6 motor is versus the labor.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:30 AM   #12
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My motivation...

Well I don't know about you guys, but I NEVER EVER plan on selling my car! I just love everything about it. I don't even want to upgrade to an S. I just want to keep it and make it a project car someday... you know, up the horsepower, exterior, etc.... for fun. I don't mind dumping money into it. It's a pleasure. Kinda like the time I taped a playing card on my BMX when I was ten years old to make it sound like a motorcycle... remember that feeling of pride and accomplishment? Same thing...
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I, too, am looking at a 3.6 into my S sooner or later, though for me, it does somewhat come down to a few choices. 1) pickup a low mileage 3.6 and spend the weekend stuffing it in with the associated upgrades. 2) Pull the block out, inspect things, install low compression pistons, stronger rods, etc and use the TurboWerx kit running higher boost. 3) Sell my 986S and pick up a 3.4 powered 987S.

Depending on the way the market moves as time ticks on, these options may all change in terms of attractiveness, and new options may appear.

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