Ontario new law on drivers caught exceeding speed limit by 50 km/h!

[jordan986]

I started this thread to warn ontario drivers... laws only been in effect a few weeks, Let me just tell you they are not messing around last weekend my sister got impounded for exactly 150km/h in an 100 almost $1000 impound fees and we have to wait and see what the court determines but from everything ive read she will be getting the minimum $2000 fine or more.
as for me V1 is now permantly affixed to my window and the blinder extreme laser jammer is on its way as we speak my car is not going to be the next victim of this "police state" law

[Brucelee]

That is the problem with the socialist state mentality. If the government sells you on the concept that they, and only they are there to protect you and take care of you, it becomes a very slippery slope.

If "speeding" is bad, then the government gets to decide what constitutes speeding and what "stick" they will use to make us all behave.

Easy to justify, it is all to protect US, right?

Now, of course, obesity is BAD for us, so what do you think is coming down the pike. Smoking is BAD and the restrictions will soon be in your home, not in our office. And, of course, the tax on "fatty foods" will follow the tax on tobacco.

Now, don't get me wrong, I hate street speeding. However, as I said above, what constitutes speeding gets worked to the government coufers angle every time.

God bless us all, everyone.

[Jump]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

That is the problem with the socialist state mentality. If the government sells you on the concept that they, and only they are there to protect you and take care of you, it becomes a very slippery slope.

If "speeding" is bad, then the government gets to decide what constitutes speeding and what "stick" they will use to make us all behave.

Easy to justify, it is all to protect US, right?

Now, of course, obesity is BAD for us, so what do you think is coming down the pike. Smoking is BAD and the restrictions will soon be in your home, not in our office. And, of course, the tax on "fatty foods" will follow the tax on tobacco.

Now, don't get me wrong, I hate street speeding. However, as I said above, what constitutes speeding gets worked to the government coufers angle every time.

God bless us all, everyone.

I think we also need to consider that it is our insurance rates that are escalating due to the losers who smoke, don't exercise and drive recklessly. We pay for their poor choices in life in more ways than one.

[der Geist]

Originally Posted by Jump

I think we also need to consider that it is our insurance rates that are escalating due to the losers who smoke, don't exercise and drive recklessly. We pay for their poor choices in life in more ways than one.

Your insurates rate are rising due to corporate greed-not losers who smoke, do drugs, drink etc. I would aggree these people contribute to the overall cost of health care cost you need to look at the corporate earnings of these companies. I remember seeing sonmething not that long ago that showed many of the insurance companies, especially health insurance companies have had quarters (and entire years) where earings were up 1000%. That's right ONE THOUSAND PERCENT. Insurance companies are some of the most profitable firms in the world. I think I am gonna give up my crack corner and go where the REAL money is. United Health Care.....

[Brucelee]

I think we also need to consider that it is our insurance rates that are escalating due to the losers who smoke, don't exercise and drive recklessly. We pay for their poor choices in life in more ways than one.

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Classic socialist thinking, but shortsighted. Insurance is my industry. Most of us would LOVE to add more differentiation in the rating systems to allow the "losers" to be charged more for their bad behavior.

Good luck with that. Try getting most of these rating schemes through the insurance commisioner. The losers come out in droves and whine as to how they are being singled out, profiled, redlined, and othewise being picked on. The upper class liberals agree, citing how it is "unfair" to charge someone more simply because they are obese, drive fast, smoke, live in a crummy neighborhood.

We should ALL subsidize those folks so that things are more FAIR.

So, the insurance commisioner says, hey, no fair, you can't charge that guy more because he is ruining his health!

And on and on it goes.

If you want to point the finger, look at how the system actually works.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by der Geist

Your insurates rate are rising due to corporate greed-not losers who smoke, do drugs, drink etc. I would aggree these people contribute to the overall cost of health care cost you need to look at the corporate earnings of these companies. I remember seeing sonmething not that long ago that showed many of the insurance companies, especially health insurance companies have had quarters (and entire years) where earings were up 1000%. That's right ONE THOUSAND PERCENT. Insurance companies are some of the most profitable firms in the world. I think I am gonna give up my crack corner and go where the REAL money is. United Health Care.....

Nice try but no cigar. The health insurance industries profits are not that high.

For example, Wellpoint made about 3 billion on 56 billion in revenue in 2006. Do the math.

Where is the greed there? How much should they make, how do you know.