Nail in tire - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Adam · 01-13-2011, 01:06 PM

I've driven tens of thousands of miles on plugged tires with no issues, as have millions of other people. I don't see how a plug caused that kind of failure. It looks like you drove on it for quite a distance while it was flat causing the sidewall to separate.

thstone · 01-13-2011, 01:19 PM

A tire properly patched/plugged should be fine to drive at legal speeds for everyday driving (not over 75mph) for the remaining life of the tire. Millions of people have done this without any problems.

However, if you want to go faster than 75mph or take corners faster than someone would in a minivan, (and definitely if you're heading to a track), you should replace the tire.

Its about that simple.

jmatta · 01-13-2011, 01:54 PM

It looks like you drove on it for quite a distance

Only until I could get safely off a two lane gravel shouldered highway, with cars passing me at 70mph!

Didn't matter, the tire was toast. My point is the patch/plug obviously did not hold, even though it was performed by a very high end shop.

jaykay · 01-14-2011, 02:06 PM

I had a nail right in the centre of one of my PS2 rears (ouch!!!). It was probably in there for a day before I felt like I was loosing some feel in the back end. I patched it at place that prepares track cars and they had no quams about it. I tried a dealer and was told that they don't do patches; only replace. He said personally he would patch it if he was me. I thought I would be okay for DE stuff based on what heard at that time

jmatta · 01-14-2011, 04:21 PM

Mine was patched on the very outer tread block...had it been the sidewall, I wouldn't have bothered, but the tire didn't have that many miles and I guess I was taking the easy way out.

Live and learn...

mikefocke · 01-14-2011, 04:52 PM

or will only plug and patch is liability. Their insurance won't cover it. Throw in high speed driving and your insurance may not cover you.

Last nail I had was in my SUV which has a full size spare. That was where the plugged and patched tire went and remained until I replaced all 5.

Been there at high speed when a tire failed. I don't try to save money on tires.

jaykay · 01-16-2011, 07:47 PM

I am wondering about heat loads at the centre vs. closer the sidewall. Maybe that is why mine was considered no problem.......it was done an PCA inspection centre so.....what is considered too high of a speed for a patch or is it one patch means a loss of one speed rating as suggested below

The patched tire holds air better than the all the others......two brand new PS2 to replace two new PS2s...ouch ouch! Might be better off with just having dedicated track wheels/tires

01-13-2011, 01:06 PM	#1
Adam Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,033	I've driven tens of thousands of miles on plugged tires with no issues, as have millions of other people. I don't see how a plug caused that kind of failure. It looks like you drove on it for quite a distance while it was flat causing the sidewall to separate. __________________ '03 3.2L GuardsRed/Blk/Blk---6Spd Options: Litronics, 18" Carrera lights, Bose sound, Painted to match roll bars. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...Mautocross.jpg

01-13-2011, 01:19 PM	#2
thstone Certified Boxster Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 7,669	A tire properly patched/plugged should be fine to drive at legal speeds for everyday driving (not over 75mph) for the remaining life of the tire. Millions of people have done this without any problems. However, if you want to go faster than 75mph or take corners faster than someone would in a minivan, (and definitely if you're heading to a track), you should replace the tire. Its about that simple. __________________ 1999 996 C2 - sold - bought back - sold for more 1997 Spec Boxster BSR #254 1979 911 SC POC Licensed DE/TT Instructor

01-13-2011, 01:54 PM	#3
jmatta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 1,675	It looks like you drove on it for quite a distance Only until I could get safely off a two lane gravel shouldered highway, with cars passing me at 70mph! Didn't matter, the tire was toast. My point is the patch/plug obviously did not hold, even though it was performed by a very high end shop. __________________ JGM 2002 Boxster S 1973 911 Green FrankenMeanie PCA DE Instructor circa '95

01-14-2011, 02:06 PM	#4
jaykay Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: toronto Posts: 2,668	I had a nail right in the centre of one of my PS2 rears (ouch!!!). It was probably in there for a day before I felt like I was loosing some feel in the back end. I patched it at place that prepares track cars and they had no quams about it. I tried a dealer and was told that they don't do patches; only replace. He said personally he would patch it if he was me. I thought I would be okay for DE stuff based on what heard at that time __________________ 986 00S

01-14-2011, 04:21 PM	#5
jmatta Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 1,675	Mine was patched on the very outer tread block...had it been the sidewall, I wouldn't have bothered, but the tire didn't have that many miles and I guess I was taking the easy way out. Live and learn... __________________ JGM 2002 Boxster S 1973 911 Green FrankenMeanie PCA DE Instructor circa '95

01-14-2011, 04:52 PM	#6
mikefocke Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sanford NC Posts: 2,606	The reason many tire shops won't patch or plug or will only plug and patch is liability. Their insurance won't cover it. Throw in high speed driving and your insurance may not cover you. Last nail I had was in my SUV which has a full size spare. That was where the plugged and patched tire went and remained until I replaced all 5. Been there at high speed when a tire failed. I don't try to save money on tires.

01-16-2011, 07:47 PM	#7
jaykay Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: toronto Posts: 2,668	I am wondering about heat loads at the centre vs. closer the sidewall. Maybe that is why mine was considered no problem.......it was done an PCA inspection centre so.....what is considered too high of a speed for a patch or is it one patch means a loss of one speed rating as suggested below The patched tire holds air better than the all the others......two brand new PS2 to replace two new PS2s...ouch ouch! Might be better off with just having dedicated track wheels/tires __________________ 986 00S

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