Leftover '06 models?

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by cfos

uh... have you been to Greenwich? You do know that, per capita, it is among the wealthest of communities nationwide. I remember, though it's been perhaps a decade, you get off at the Metro North stop and are greated by Mercedes, lexus, etc., dealerships with Ferrari being around the corner.

Uhh...it's kind of where I bought my car and also the area you're speaking of is exactly where this Porsche dealer is.


Right across the street from the Mercedes dealer and on the same side of the street as the BMW dealer (bought 2 cars from there), Audi dealer (same company), Bentley/Aston Martin/Rolls-Royce dealer.



This is precisely my point. Why hasn't it sold?

[cfos]

Well, as I said I may be off on locations since it has been a few years since I've be on the Metro North. Nevertheless, in a county that supports what, Bentley and AMs, (ferrari still there, too?) you think the average buyer of Greenwich is going to buy... a Boxster? Maybe for their kid, but in a (rather small) state that boasts, what 4 Porsche dealerships... I don't find it odd at all that there is a leftover 06 Boxster especially considering the wealth of that particular town. Besides, your wondering whether Porsche sales are down based on... 1 left-over?

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by cfos

Well, as I said I may be off on locations since it has been a few years since I've be on the Metro North. Nevertheless, in a county that supports what, Bentley and AMs, (ferrari still there, too?) you think the average buyer of Greenwich is going to buy... a Boxster? Maybe for their kid, but in a (rather small) state that boasts, what 4 Porsche dealerships... I don't find it odd at all that there is a leftover 06 Boxster especially considering the wealth of that particular town. Besides, your wondering whether Porsche sales are down based on... 1 left-over?

I strongly disagree. Greenwich isn't Vatican City.



In affluent areas, cars like the Boxster will likely be sold more than anything else. Many people have a lot of $$ here, yes, but that doesn't mean they look at a $50,000 sports car and say, "I can do better."


The fact is that the average family in Greenwich would probably be looking at a Boxster because it is more affordable.


Just because many of the people have a lot of $$ doesn't mean they all can afford 911s and look over the Boxster. That's an outrageous thought!!!

[Boxtaboy]

I think he's saying that because it is a wealthy area, people don't buy the Boxster, but instead go straight for the 911.

[cfos]

Bingo. I lived in CT for some 20+ years and, depending on where you were, some highschoolers drove 911s to school. That dealership has over 20 911s in stock, 15+ Caymens and 10+ Cayennes that are 2008 models -- according to their webpage (whereas my local dealership may have a total of 30 or so cars in their ENTIRE inventory). This is not a knock on the Box, but if you could afford a Bentley or a Ferrari, a 911, etc., would you drive a Boxster? We're talking "new" here...

Yes, yes for those that believe the Boxster is a greater invention than the microwave, sure, you would, but I think I'd fall in the larger category of people that would buy the other(s). If money weren't the object, I pick Ferrari, Bentley or an Aston any day (twice on Thursdays) over a Boxster. Of course, if I'm buying that kind of car, I may pick up a Boxster as a third or forth car -- unless... I opt for the 911 convertable.

[Boxtaboy]

Agreed. In fact, I distinctly remember my boss at the time (who lives in Greenwich) busting on me and another coworker for not getting the 911, saying basically, that if you do get a Porsche, you should get the 911.

Meanwhile, he was bragging about buying an E-series Mercedes, which is the same price as a Boxster. LOL

[cfos]

I whole-heartedly agree with Boxtaboy. "Status" is far more important to the Connecticut Yankee than performance, handling, etc.

[cfos]

"In affluent areas, cars like the Boxster will likely be sold more than anything else. Many people have a lot of $$ here, yes, but that doesn't mean they look at a $50,000 sports car and say, "I can do better."


The fact is that the average family in Greenwich would probably be looking at a Boxster because it is more affordable.


Just because many of the people have a lot of $$ doesn't mean they all can afford 911s and look over the Boxster. That's an outrageous thought!!!"

Son, listen to what you are saying. The Greenwich dealership, which may know a little more than you about their clients than you... has 6 Boxsters in their inventory. Go and check, if you want:

http://new-country.porschedealer.com/new_cars/search.php?model=987

Compare that with their complete inventory:

http://new-country.porschedealer.com/new_cars/search.php

Say what you want about "average" families. Personally, when I think average family, I think of people with young(er) children and a two seat car isn't exactly the best for soccer games and car-pooling. I mean, the average family has what, 2 cars? Maybe a third junker for their kid(s) that their kid may have bought, right? I think if Boxsters were hot, they'd carry more or have more on their way for delivery -- right?

From Wikipedia: "The median income for a household in the town is $99,086, and the median income for a family is $122,719. Males have a median income of $95,085 versus $47,806 for females." I don't know that you can generalize the residents of Greenwich as being "average".

Also from Wikipedia: Hmmm... maybe I'm wrong in the number of people choosing Ferrari -- It looks like they choose BMW:

"The town's 2006 Grand List (tax rolls) includes more than $1 billion in assessed values for automobiles, which raised $5.5 million in revenue for the town. Overall, there were 2,337 cars worth more than $50,000 on the list, and there were 3,769 BMWs, 3,474 Mercedes-Benzes, 931 Porsches, 94 Ferraris, 90 Bentleys, 65 Aston Martins, 40 Maseratis, 39 Rolls-Royces, four registered Maybachs (a brand that can retail for up to $385,000), and one Lamborghini. Greenwich has the only authorized Aston Martin dealership in the state.[11] "

It doesn't look like Porsche is hurting... I wonder how many states boast the numbers of this little "town" in Connecticut...?

[Boxtaboy]

Here are the numbers. Porsche sells a lot more 911s than Boxsters, so I guess there's no shortage of status seekers.

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by cfos

Son, listen to what you are saying. The Greenwich dealership, which may know a little more than you about their clients than you... has 6 Boxsters in their inventory. Go and check, if you want:

http://new-country.porschedealer.com/new_cars/search.php?model=987

Compare that with their complete inventory:

http://new-country.porschedealer.com/new_cars/search.php

Congratulations. Wait, what does that prove again? That they sell a lot of their Boxsters? You can look at an inventory of a given dealer at any given time and one product might be less available than other, but that does NOT indicate what people want/desire more necessarily

Say what you want about "average" families. Personally, when I think average family, I think of people with young(er) children and a two seat car isn't exactly the best for soccer games and car-pooling. I mean, the average family has what, 2 cars? Maybe a third junker for their kid(s) that their kid may have bought, right? I think if Boxsters were hot, they'd carry more or have more on their way for delivery -- right?

Um, ok? Relevance? Obviously I was referring to the average family who wants a sports car. Didn't think I'd have to point that out nor did I think I'd have to point out that I was referring to the average family in Greenwich.

From Wikipedia: "The median income for a household in the town is $99,086, and the median income for a family is $122,719. Males have a median income of $95,085 versus $47,806 for females." I don't know that you can generalize the residents of Greenwich as being "average".

Read above. Average families of Greenwich. Are you dense? Where did I call families in Greenwich average?

Also from Wikipedia: Hmmm... maybe I'm wrong in the number of people choosing Ferrari -- It looks like they choose BMW:

"The town's 2006 Grand List (tax rolls) includes more than $1 billion in assessed values for automobiles, which raised $5.5 million in revenue for the town. Overall, there were 2,337 cars worth more than $50,000 on the list, and there were 3,769 BMWs, 3,474 Mercedes-Benzes, 931 Porsches, 94 Ferraris, 90 Bentleys, 65 Aston Martins, 40 Maseratis, 39 Rolls-Royces, four registered Maybachs (a brand that can retail for up to $385,000), and one Lamborghini. Greenwich has the only authorized Aston Martin dealership in the state.[11] "



It doesn't look like Porsche is hurting... I wonder how many states boast the numbers of this little "town" in Connecticut...?

Ok, so because it's an affluent town, that means nobody buys Boxsters all because a certain number can afford/have bought 911s, AMs, Ferraris, etc.



That doesn't make any sense and that doesn't necessarily counter my points in any way. All you are saying is that Greenwich is a relatively affluent area. I realize that. Does that mean the people of Greenwich won't have Boxsters? All 60,000 residents?


Think about it.