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Old 03-04-2018, 10:07 AM   #995
thstone
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Originally Posted by Greg Holmberg View Post
I think I could get those 5 more HP if I replaced the cats with straight pipes.
First, thanks for posting your dyno sheet. Always good to see real data!

Yes, I would expect at least a 5hp gain from removing the cat's. If you drive the car on the street, you'll have to re-install the cat's every two years to pass the CA smog test but its not that much work.


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Originally Posted by Greg Holmberg View Post
I wonder how 197 at the wheels translates to HP at the crank. I think one loses about 15% through the gearbox and tires. So 197/.85 = 232 HP at the crank?
15% is the standard estimate for driveline loss.

Remember that the engine is spec'd from the factory at 201hp. That might be a little conservative so my thought is the power from a good 2.5L engine probably ranges from 203-205hp.

So how does a 205 hp engine (at the crank) make 197 hp at the wheels with a 15% driveline loss?

205hp * 0.15 = 31hp driveline loss
205 - 31 = 174 hp at the crank

Now, add back changes that add horsepower;

+8 hp cat back muffler
+8 hp removal of cat's
+4 hp under drive pulley
+2 hp cleaned/calibrated injectors

174 + 8 +8 + 4 + 2 = 196 hp

The exact HP values for the muffler, removal of cat's, UDP, and calibrated injectors might vary a bit from those shown above. Also, we used a "standard" 15% for the driveline loss and that might be slightly higher or lower than the actual loss.


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Originally Posted by Greg Holmberg View Post
Is torque also lost through the gearbox, or only HP?
Yes, as Anker said, torque will scale the same as horsepower.
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