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Old 11-13-2017, 04:54 PM   #23
thstone
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Some practical advice...

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I'm a long time Porsche owner and something has come to my attention in the Porsche community that concerns me greatly.

Recently, a new Porsche dealer has moved into our town of 5-6 million people and bought out all the other Porsche dealers and closed them, leaving us with only 1 Porsche dealership within 100 miles.

Several PCA members have had poor experiences with them already, myself included when I purchased a pre-owned Porsche. I don't want to get into specifics because it would reveal who I am to any local PCA members reading, but sufficient to say I'll be taking my porsche to the other dealership 100 miles away for service.
Sounds like a good path forward. If you don't like the dealer and if you feel the need to get the word out, then post the pertinent info to your own FB page (not someone else's) and then go somewhere else for purchase/repairs. End of story - right?

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When we expressed our grievances on the local PCA facebook page we were essentially told to shut up by the local PCA President, that we can not disparage a PCA sponsor. Now when Porsche owners post that they need service to the PCA facebook page, we recommend other non-Porsche shops and send them private messages telling them to avoid the only Porsche dealer in town.
PCA people are generally VERY helpful! Do you know the President of your region personally? If not, you should. Then go and talk with him and get his advice. Maybe he and the PCA aren't in position to do anything. And if he/she says that they can't help, thank them for their time and trust that they would help if they could. Calling someone corrupt just because they didn't do what you want them to do is slinging mud. Please don't go there. And trying to undermine the relationship between your Region and the local dealer is the wrong message when you're asking both of them to listen to your issues.

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The PCA President seems happily oblivious, cheerfully posting about how wonderful the new Porsche dealership is and schedules PCA meetings there several times a year.
It is entirely normal and expected for Region leadership to be working with the local dealer(s). Seems like the dealer is supporting the Region by hosting meetings several times a year. Not only can I not find fault here, but I would commend the Region President for doing a good job because that is what should be happening.

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I'm disappointed that the PCA has turned it's back on their paying members and instead bowed down to this new dealership that many PCA members are having serious problems with.
What exactly do you want the PCA to do? Please be EXACT. And please think about this before you hit the keyboard.

Have you tried to work out the issues with the dealership on your own? Did you speak to the sales manager or service manager? Did you ask to speak to the dealer manager?

Now, with all of the above information, what could the PCA do that you have not been able to accomplish on your own?

Do you really want the PCA to be your personal advocate? Remember, these folks are just plain old Porsche owners like the rest of us who volunteer their time and efforts. Are you really asking them to become consumer advocates on their own time? On what basis/knowledge/training would they do this?

Personally, I have found that the best way to get problems like this resolved is to go to the dealer in person, be polite and personable, know what you want them to do (within reason), and meet with the right person. You should be able to do this on your own.

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Is there anything that can be done? Besides giving up on Porsche?
Yes, go meet with the dealer and work out the issues. There is no reason to give up on Porsche because of a bad dealer experience. But if you think that you're going to change how the dealer "does business" you will probably be disappointed. The dealer has the right to legally operate however they want. And you have the right to go somewhere else if you don't like how they operate.

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p.s. I posted this on rennlist yesterday and admin deleted it within 4 hours, guess they're hiding corruption too which is unfortunate.
Complaining here about Rennlist doesn't help. If you have a beef with them, contact their admin. Just remember that we all exist on Forum's at the discretion of the admin's.
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